Lose Weight 32

fredsnail

Starting the chart in 10 mins so get your results in :j

vixarooni

Wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

vixarooni

9 stone 13.02!!!! haha. My scales like that 0.2 reading. Thats a loss of i dunno. I was 10.00.02 1lb i suppose. And thats weighing myself at night when ive eaten. BOOM!

(and i need a poo)

fredsnail

Here's this weeks chart:



Congratulations to Puddings our SoTW.

Well done to all our losers and STSers this week and commiserations to our gainers - dust yourselves off and start again tomorrow.



This weeks winners of the team challenge are Scotland :j:j

Next week is the final week of the nations challenge - good luck to all teams (but especially Wales )

This weeks quote is from Henry Ward Beecher:
"Men's best successes come after their disappointments."

vixarooni

Am i being thick? how did scotland win? Im being thick arent i...and if i am just gloss over this like you never saw it!!

fredsnail

vixarooni wrote: »

Am i being thick? how did scotland win? Im being thick arent i...and if i am just gloss over this like you never saw it!!

They've lost the biggest % of their teams weight this week (0.64%), Wales and Ireland came joint second with 0.54% and England lost 0.5% this week.

Last week Wales lost the biggest % of their teams weight and in week 1 Scotland lost the biggest % of their teams weight.

I'm talking about the weekly result not the total one - that will be talked about next week

Eric_Pisch

cgk1 wrote: »

It's funny you mention scientific research - I looked into all of this after you first starting mentioning low-carb diets, the medical literature (Peer-reviewed rather than popularist stuff) seems to say that low-carb diets are of no particular benefit and what's actually happening is that people who follow low-carb diets lose weight if they are also counting calories and it's the counting of calories that does it (in the short term, the literature also says that in the end most people crack and go back to their own ways).

If it seems to work for you great - but as a way to end obesity? The evidence simply isn't there (or if it is, it's not being published in any medical journals I have access to).

2 mins on google has found over 100+ examples of research showing the advantages of going back to a more natural way of eating. Especially long term trials showing its far easier to sustain long term.

I will agree thou it is confusing because there is so much contradictory evidence out there, especially about calorie counting which whilst sensible the figures never add up, take last week I deliberately over ate by 10,000 calories which should have seen me gain 3-4lbs yet I gained only 1lb. In 60 weeks of logging calories in and calories out (and with a professionally calculated BMI) not once has my weight loss matched the "predicted" amount, its often out */- by over 50% and occasionally by 100%

In the same way there is a constant bombardment by government and the media to follow a low fat low cholesterol diet (based on the flawed Ansel Keys research) and yet heres a study of 350,000 people showing there is no relationship between ingested saturated fat/cholesterol and and CHD/CVD

http://www.ajcn.org/content/early/2010/01/13/ajcn.2009.27725.abstract?maxtoshow=&HITS=10&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=&fulltext=chd+cvd&searchid=1&FIRSTINDEX=0&sortspec=relevance&resourcetype=HWCIT

Conclusions: A meta-analysis of prospective epidemiologic studies showed that there is no significant evidence for concluding that dietary saturated fat is associated with an increased risk of CHD or CVD. More data are needed to elucidate whether CVD risks are likely to be influenced by the specific nutrients used to replace saturated fat.

so its easy to see why confusion reigns

Eric_Pisch

puddings wrote: »

Fred :-) can you add a 9lb loss to England team's scores please for this week

This puts me back down to 25st 8lbs - which is the lowest ive been in recent years and just 8 lbs away from getting a £500 cheque off my Dad! Next weeks target is therefore 8lbs!!!

Little Puds, you are a hero :T:T:T:T


I just hope you do not burn yourself out, keep up the good work :beer:

Eric_Pisch

somethingsgottogive wrote: »

Morning

It's a STS for me I'm afraid.

Thanks for the links Eric, I've been wondering what everyone's been talking about! Seems to be a pretty controversial subject but interesting. The only diet plan I've ever followed is WW, before they changed the way it's all pointed from carbohydrate content, so I've been thinking about counting calories as I currently have no idea how many I'm eating!

I'm not doing very well this week, it's half term and with the eldest having an ear infection we're stuck at home... and they're both driving me crazy... so I eat. I can't really exercise at home because the big one hassles me and the little one finds it hilarious to run in circles around me, and neither of them stop talking long enough for me to concentrate on anything. *Sigh* bring on Monday!

The people at WW have also been reading whats been going on, they have recently implemented there new pro points system which is far more focused on protein and less on carbs, my wife has just started this, it will be interesting to see how it works out for her long term.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyFOGMgnFuk

I Think WW / SW works best if you can find a group that offers good long term support.

I dont know much about SW but I believe they also have a system thats more focused on protein / lower carb.

Eric_Pisch

vixarooni wrote: »

I am very much in agreement with you. You don't need scientific research to tell us what has gone wrong with alot of people who are obese/fat. We've created a world where fat food is so easy to get and make...combined with the bodys natural instinct to want certain foods for energy and survival. Mix the two and boom! Carbs play a part, but i don't think its as black and white as what eric makes out.

I have never said its just about carbs, there are many different factors involved.

As I have posted many times, underlying issues / demons have to be dealt with first, no one can sustain will power alone for more than a few weeks, especially me the master of yo-yo dieting, hell there are very few people that have yo-yo'd to the extremes I have over the last 15 years, even puds is a light weight by my standards .

I have also made reference to the mass over supply of food about and many times to the way the brains pleasure centre rewards for eating foods that are high fat/sugar/salt.

But time and time again I see people here and infact just about every where "coming of the wagon" and 99% of the time they have carbed binged when doing so, you just have to read up over the last few pages for some examples. The governments own figures show that 98% of diets fail after 2 years.

To me thou it just seams common sense to look at what we have changed over the last 40-50 years in our diet and whilst we are over eating more calories there has been a disproportional shift to the amount of carbs we eat, and we know what this does to insulin.

It just seams logical to me to reverse this trend and move our diet to something that is far more natural to us.

I think fat avoidance is also a big issue, we ate a high fat diet for 2.5-3 million years and the obsession with low fat dieting can cause all sorts of issues, such as depression, constipation and making you more prone to stress. Most ironically my cholesterol is at 4.3-4.8 now after moving over to a higher fat diet.

And this is the only time in my 15 years of being a blob and master yo-yo dieter that I am rarely hungry and I never have cravings of any kind, which overcomes my extremely weak willed nature and natural greed.

It is a vastly complex area, with many factors affecting it, but for me common sense says return to how we evolved to eat, well the best we can given the modern environment.