Toddler Toilet Training help! (merged)

annaangeluk_2

mrcow wrote: »

What was the point of starting this thread if not to do exactly that?

So I could find out what the rules are likely to be so I can suggest to her that she might need to make a start on potty training so her daughter doesn't miss out on a nursery place that she is looking forward to. My dd didn't go to a school nursery so I didn't know what the policy would be. I didn't want to ask the school as she would feel like I was "telling tales", an anonymous post seemed the best idea.

Surely as you obviously have nothing constructive to say then you just jumped on this thread looking for a row?

mrcow

Well the "rules" are whatever the nursery in question want them to be.

All nurserys are different so you're never going to get an answer posting on here.

If that was why you posted, why be so nasty about your friend in the process? I'm sorry, I just don't get how someone could be so mean behind someone else's back like that?

It's probably me. I'm very loyal to my friends and just would never treat someone whose friendship I valued like that I guess

annaangeluk_2

mrcow wrote: »

Well the "rules" are whatever the nursery in question want them to be.

All nurserys are different so you're never going to get an answer posting on here.

If that was why you posted, why be so nasty about your friend in the process? I'm sorry, I just don't get how someone could be so mean behind someone else's back like that?

It's probably me. I'm very loyal to my friends and just would never treat someone whose friendship I valued like that I guess

So you've always agreed with your friend's 100% and never ever felt annoyed with them?

The night I posted the original thread I was really annoyed with this woman as they had been over at my house and the little girl had quite blatently not had her nappy changed, as it was dripping through her clothes. I offered to take her upstairs and find some old clothes to change her into. Her mother said not to bother, that she'd be alright for a while longer. I said to her in passing "won't it be much easier when she's using the toilet?! Saves a fortune in nappies too." She just said "yeah but it's too much hassle to do it, can't be ar*ed keep cleaning up puddles, let nursery worry about that." That's when I mentioned that they might expect her to have at least started potty training when she starts, she seems to think it's their job not hers.

mrcow

annaangeluk wrote: »

So you've always agreed with your friend's 100% and never ever felt annoyed with them?

I've never made a post such as your OP if that's what you're asking?

purple-smartie

My son is three in november and Ive been trying for months to get him to use the potty but hes only interested in walking round with it on his head :rolleyes: I hope none of my friends are posting about me on the internet saying im lazy :eek:

bestpud

annaangeluk wrote: »

Yes I do like this woman but that doesn't mean I don't find her attitude very strange. And no I don't want her to lose the nursery place as her daughter will be heartbroken.

Strange? Or disgusting? I'm glad you want to support her (as friends do) - but it didn't sound like it in your original post, to be fair.

The reason I mentioned that dd went to a private nursery was to make the point that they had way more staff per child but would not do all the potty training. The school she is putting her child into has less staff therefore presumably less time to potty train without any help from the parents.

It does still depend very much on individual nurseries, how they view it and how thay are set up.

This mother had admitted that she doesn't want to start potty training as it's "too much hassle!" How does that make me judgemental??

Well, the word 'disgusting' is a bit of a give away! It's a tad emotive and very critical, don't you think? Just as an example from here, it's a word most often used on threads involving vile or sickening behaviour. It is NOT aword I would use to describe someone I liked but had a disagreement with!

Again, 'lazy' is a judgemental word - it's subjective and is YOUR interpretation (ie a judgement).

Maybe, 'can anyone advise on nurseries and potty training as I'm concerned my friend's daughter may miss out on her place?' would have been sufficient to meet your given aims?

I personally would not speak about my friends in that manner, no matter how annoyed I was with them - and I would be very hurt if they felt more able to post things like this than speak their mind to my face.

kitchpoo

My son has a severe case of potty phobia. I have no idea why. When I chose my nursery for him I wanted to choose one that had this level of care...I see nursery as a place where the level of care should be really high. They are only young....His nursery are fantastic. They got him used to standing in front of the toilet with his nappy off...even though he didn't do anything. I think the small toilets they have got helped. Now he is dry in terms of wees but won't do poos....Its not that I wouldn't potty train him...we certainly have carried on this process but they certainly helped start him off and for that I am grateful.

andycarmi

If she isn't potty trained for what ever reason, she should still has the right to attend school.

tsstss7

Hi I've done the school nursery /playgroup thing (a longish time ago though so things may have changed) and as others have said your mate should ask.

The groups I was involved with did not do nappies as they were run with very few members of staff that would be allowed to change a nappy (they have mums help and they are not allowed to supervise toileting!)

Others however are run more like private nurseries that cost more also and would do this - however she is running the risk of finding out the hard way...

playgroups/nurseries are often independant of the school and so the school does not necessarily make the rules so it is not a case of right to an education. In any case they would probably not do any more than change nappies unless it was a proper full time nursey - they would not be able to potty train in the 2-3 hours they run for....just not practical.......

However she might just get away with it as the child might "self train" when around others that already are - as parents of siblings know the second is usually easier to train as they have an example set for them at home.

:eek:

Mics_chick

My dd usually wears pull-ups at night but last night I said she could be a big girl and just wear pants to see how we got on...she wet the bed and woke up in the middle of the night coz she was cold - poor thing so we changed her bed but she was wet again when she got up this morning.

My mum said that she got us up every couple of hours until we got the hang of it but I don't know if I could cope with this sleep deprivation coz I'm on anti-depressants for PND and need a good night's sleep to stay awake during the day :rolleyes:

Any advice would be gratefully appreciated...:D