just been sacked for theft in retail

MrRedundant

What awful advice. The OP needs to appeal before starting an ET. Tbh asking for advice now rather than 5 weeks ago is her big mistake. I wonder just how much she incriminated herself so far by stating the money must have went missing overnight rather than asking whether it was ever there. Her statements may well make their case for them now!

Quackers

1984ReturnsForReal wrote: »

You might want to read the thread

I have. But some of the OP's posts are a little vague and I just wanted it clarifying.

It seems bizarre that the OP is suggesting that it was only that one evening the till was counted and it wasn't done AFTER a shortage was found for several nights.

If a discrepancy is found and people are under suspicion then usually security measures are tightened/procedures reviewed and counts are done more often.

The OP also suggests that other people had access to the safe...have they been investigated?

blue_monkey_2

MrRedundant wrote: »

Yes but based on what you say; Who verified the balance when you left? or when the manager left or at any point between?

It could have been missing all along and the manager miscounted or someone else was away with it.

The jump in till balances seems to suggest this could be right.

If others had access to the till and the managers count isnt verified I dont think any appeal could be unsucessful tbh unless they want to turn round and sack the lot of you.

Exactly why procedures are in place. The person using the till should always cash up and record the money and see the till get put away. Then cash the till before they use it in the morning so they could see what the float is.

There is a serious mismangement of cash going on in that store.

Can I ask if Head Office were involved OP, who suspended you, who did the investigation and who sacked you? Were the police mentioned at any time? The police would ALWAYS be called to make an example of you in front of other employees that theft will not be tolerated. Usually the arrest is in front of other staff too. It always has where I have worked.

The fact they were not implies they knew no charge would stick.

blue_monkey_2

MrRedundant wrote: »

What awful advice. The OP needs to appeal before starting an ET. Tbh asking for advice now rather than 5 weeks ago is her big mistake. I wonder just how much she incriminated herself so far by stating the money must have went missing overnight rather than asking whether it was ever there. Her statements may well make their case for them now!

Because 5 weeks ago she had not been sacked. I am sure, from her posts here, she never thought that she would get the blame for this and is just as stunned as anyone else would be.

MrRedundant

blue_monkey wrote: »

Exactly why procedures are in place. The person using the till should always cash up and record the money and see the till get put away. Then cash the till before they use it in the morning so they could see what the float is.

There is a serious mismangement of cash going on in that store.

Can I ask if Head Office were involved OP, who suspended you, who did the investigation and who sacked you? Were the police mentioned at any time? The police would ALWAYS be called to make an example of you in front of other employees that theft will not be tolerated. Usually the arrest is in front of other staff too. It always has where I have worked.

The fact they were not implies they knew no charge would stick.

If the cash procedures in that store are lacking though that isnt the OP's fault. Unless the OP has ignored them and everyone else is following them dismissal is unfair as the theft or mistake could be anyones responsibility therefore you either sack none or all.

MrRedundant

blue_monkey wrote: »

Because 5 weeks ago she had not been sacked. I am sure, from her posts here, she never thought that she would get the blame for this and is just as stunned as anyone else would be.

Even when she had been suspended for theft and so on. The fact is the OP should have got advice sooner and has probably damaged her chances.

Liquorice_Twirls

Also a difference of £180 would immediately make me think it was a transposition error as it is divisible by 9 and that means someone could have transposed 2 figures when reading figures off or adding up eg £970 and £790.

When the cash has been paid in and transactions processed there is also a possibility that this £180 will pop up again as it hasn't been reconciled properly.

Hope this is properly investigated as it should be by a national company like this.

williacg

You've received some excellent advice on the forum this evening, you need to make sure that your union are pulling their full weight, your facts are all collated, and you have made use of all resources available to you such as ACAS, CAB , solicitor, asap.

milothewestie

MrRedundant wrote: »

What awful advice. The OP needs to appeal before starting an ET. Tbh asking for advice now rather than 5 weeks ago is her big mistake. I wonder just how much she incriminated herself so far by stating the money must have went missing overnight rather than asking whether it was ever there. Her statements may well make their case for them now!

i asked them to question managers which they did in interview were the money went,they did the interviews i have copys of them at no stage did they ask if any manager stole money just asked about company procedures for counting and reporting losses

blue_monkey_2

On Monday call ACAS, then call your union and ask if you have free solicitor representation and go from there.

Let us know how it goes.