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just been sacked for theft in retail

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  • This happened to me once, when I was about 21 years old. I worked in a travel agency, and we all kept our own tills, with our own keys. One morning, I got into work to find that my till was about £200 down. I knew that this wasn't true, as I had counted it and submitted a slip with the takings. My manager told me that I was suspended on suspicion on theft, which was extremely distressing for me, as I am not a thief. So, I insisted that my manager call the police! She didn't want to do this, but I insisted, I even had to call them myself because she refused, quoting all sorts of 'company policy BS' and they turned up and took statements from all of us. Guess who took the money? Well, it wasn't me.............I will leave that to your own imaginations..

    Well done for not taking her BS! Did it come out that she took the money there and then?
  • Well done for not taking her BS! Did it come out that she took the money there and then?

    Yes, it all came out in the interviews with the police, the lying cow! I have never forgotten that feeling of being under suspicion, it has never left me over 30 years later. Its one thing stealing something, but then to try to pin it on someone else is the pits. She was sacked, of course :D
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  • Quackers wrote: »

    So the evening count of the till doesn't usually happen?

    And even after you found a shortage it wasn't done any following nights?

    This is the bit that makes it sound like a set up to me.
    On the one night (and one night ONLY) that the manager counted the money, £180 goes missing before the OP does the counting the following morning.
    It does seem to point to theft by the manager.
  • Or a way to set up the OP so they can get rid without having to pay redundancy. Like another poster said,ten years is a long time.
  • dickydonkin
    dickydonkin Posts: 3,055 Forumite
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    edited 23 January 2011 at 1:28PM
    dark_lady wrote: »
    Or a way to set up the OP so they can get rid without having to pay redundancy. Like another poster said,ten years is a long time.

    I was not aware there was a redundancy situation where the OP worked.

    Should there be a redundancy situation, a statutory redundancy payment for 10 years employment could potentially be in the region of £4,000 which for a company like the one in question - is peanuts.

    Defending a claim for unfair dismissal and all of the other negative implications of doing so could potentially be more costly-not just financially.

    I would certainly fight this all of the way - irrespective of the posters who have suggested otherwise.

    I suspect the company in question may not wish to have their 'reputation' compromised should this escalate, although based on the OP, their reputation leaves a lot to be desired.

    The cash handling procedures (or it may be the monitoring and implementing) for such a large organisation seems seems a little dysfunctional at best.

    The experience below from anxious-mum is exactly why the OP should pursue this.
    Yes, it all came out in the interviews with the police, the lying cow! I have never forgotten that feeling of being under suspicion, it has never left me over 30 years later. Its one thing stealing something, but then to try to pin it on someone else is the pits.

    It just shows that where money is involved, some people would sell their mother for financial gain - and just don't care about who they drop in it.
  • bluetownbarry
    bluetownbarry Posts: 142 Forumite
    edited 23 January 2011 at 4:00PM
    dpassmore wrote: »
    I was not aware there was a redundancy situation where the OP worked.

    Should there be a redundancy situation, a statutory redundancy payment for 10 years employment could potentially be in the region of £4,000 which for a company like the one in question - is peanuts.

    Defending a claim for unfair dismissal and all of the other negative implications of doing so could potentially be more costly-not just financially.

    I would certainly fight this all of the way - irrespective of the posters who have suggested otherwise.

    I suspect the company in question may not wish to have their 'reputation' compromised should this escalate, although based on the OP, their reputation leaves a lot to be desired.

    The cash handling procedures (or it may be the monitoring and implementing) for such a large organisation seems seems a little dysfunctional at best.

    The experience below from anxious-mum is exactly why the OP should pursue this.



    It just shows that where money is involved, some people would sell their mother for financial gain - and just don't care about who they drop in it.


    I can't find anyone who has posted here that has suggested not persuing it, or have I missed something?

    Incidentally, totally agree with what you say about the "redundancy" angle. The dismissal would have been sanctioned (or at least should have been) by a different manager & backed up by the OP's HR department so it seems highly unlikely that some sort of conspiracy took place. Even if it were true, it would be nigh on impossible to prove, so far better for the OP to stick to the facts & keep it simple.
  • I can't find anyone who has posted here that has suggested not persuing it, or have I missed something?

    Incidentally, totally agree with what you say about the "redundancy" angle. The dismissal would have been sanctioned (or at least should have been) by a different manager & backed up by the OP's HR department so it seems highly unlikely that some sort of conspiracy took place. Even if it were true, it would be nigh on impossible to prove, so far better for the OP to stick to the facts & keep it simple.


    there is no redundancy about this dismissal i never even said there was
  • Strider590
    Strider590 Posts: 11,874 Forumite
    edited 23 January 2011 at 4:39PM
    Three words:

    Defamation of character






    What's happened here is there's been a theft and the manager needs to be seen to take action, he/she needs a scape goat or their own job could be on the line.
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  • there is no redundancy about this dismissal i never even said there was

    Yes I know - I wasn't replying to you, other posters have mentioned it.
  • WhiteHorse
    WhiteHorse Posts: 2,492 Forumite
    Managers dipping into the safe to cover short term debts is a well known phenomenon. It's also quite possible that the manager was negligent, didn't follow company procedure, and thus enabled someone else to steal it.

    These are the most likely.

    If the company really doesn't want to involve the police, ask yourself why and involve them yourself.
    "Never underestimate the mindless force of a government bureaucracy
    seeking to expand its power, dominion and budget"
    Jay Stanley, American Civil Liberties Union.
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