just been sacked for theft in retail

1984ReturnsForReal_2

milothewestie wrote: »

manager counted till and put away in safe end of business day 8pm

Manager says they counted till but probably went with the receipts & sat with there feet up or surfing the net.

blue_monkey_2

1984ReturnsForReal wrote: »

That makes sense & the manager couldn't be bothered to check at the end of the day which is probably a required that if not fulfilled would mean their instant dismissal.

Yes, exactly. The money and paperwork has to go to HO who then also check it afterwards.

People stealing was our biggest nightmare and often people would steal from the store with help from the staff too. I remember one staff member would load the stuff into their car for them. And I went in one day and an entire meat, dairy and cheese counter had been stripped bare - same staff member on duty as well. He used to know where the cameras were pointing at that day.

And it turned out to be the ones who were happy to do anything for you as well and we 'too nice'. Bar-stewards!! Even though you know it is them, there are still proper procedures to be followed.

starrystarry

blue_monkey wrote: »

No, they cannot. They have to have proof. Otherwise there is no job in retail that is safe. This leaves any retail store to have a dodgy manager, stealing £1000 a week from a till, blaming the employee who was on the till that day and them sacking them but there being no retribution. Employment laws are there for a reason. Procedures are there for a reason.

Trust has a big part to play in retail hence people using the same till which is why most do it. But if money does go missing you cannot just sack the one person who was on the till for most of the day as it might not have been them that took the money.

In all the places you've worked they would have to have proof to sack someone, but is this a legal requirement or just best practice?

milothewestie

blue_monkey wrote: »

milothewestie wrote: »

No, it was the way it was written.

Who else had access to the safe? Did anyone else sign off the sheet the money when you initially counted it at 2pm.

Was the till down that day or was the money just missing the day after?

i left work at 2pm i never counted any tills b4 i left the manager did at 8pm,no one else signed for the count of the till that the manager did,other managers have access to safe till was in,the money was missing the day after(i counted at 7.30 am when i started work and found it 180 down

ill just add this is the only time they checked a till the night b4 they dont normally,nor did they in the five days till they suspended me just seems strange the manager did it that night and never again

1984ReturnsForReal_2

blue_monkey wrote: »

I remember one staff member would load the stuff into their car for them. And I went in one day and an entire meat, dairy and cheese counter had been stripped bare - same staff member on duty as well. He used to know where the cameras were pointing at that day.

I have heard that story before. Where abouts in Herts/Beds was it?

milothewestie

starrystarry wrote: »

When the manager counted the till the night before, did it tally with the takings?

yes it did

blue_monkey_2

OP, I would be going to a tribunal myself as they have to have 100% proof that it was you that took that money.

The manager is probably covering his own backside but if you go to tribunal he'll get found out.

Let's just say the OP is dishonest and did take the money. She has been working in retail long enough to know that over the course of the day she could get more money in that till by giving people £1 or £2 short in their change and building up a 'pot' so the till was not down £180 at the end of the day. She would certainly not have reported it before putting the till in the draw at the start of the day!! I've worked with money long enough to know what happens when people are dishonest!!

milothewestie

blue_monkey wrote: »

OP, I would be going to a tribunal myself as they have to have 100% proof that it was you that took that money.

The manager is probably covering his own backside but if you go to tribunal he'll get found out.

Let's just say the OP is dishonest and did take the money. She has been working in retail long enough to know that over the course of the day she could get more money in that till by giving people £1 or £2 short in their change and building up a 'pot' so the till was not down £180 at the end of the day. She would certainly not have reported it before putting the till in the draw at the start of the day!! I've worked with money long enough to know what happens when people are dishonest!!

ill definately take it to tribunal if the union will help me although he did say today this thing about reasonable doubt/ proof but the union person i went in when they sacked me said they was taking the preverbial pi..

duchy

You don't need union support to go to a tribunial

anxious_mum

This happened to me once, when I was about 21 years old. I worked in a travel agency, and we all kept our own tills, with our own keys. One morning, I got into work to find that my till was about £200 down. I knew that this wasn't true, as I had counted it and submitted a slip with the takings. My manager told me that I was suspended on suspicion on theft, which was extremely distressing for me, as I am not a thief. So, I insisted that my manager call the police! She didn't want to do this, but I insisted, I even had to call them myself because she refused, quoting all sorts of 'company policy BS' and they turned up and took statements from all of us. Guess who took the money? Well, it wasn't me.............I will leave that to your own imaginations..