just been sacked for theft in retail

milothewestie

sorry meant to thank everyone for your advice ill keep you posted on what happens

starrystarry

blue_monkey wrote: »

Yes, that might be the case but there has probably not been money go missing from those tills. Should money go missing from the till at the end of the day then they would have no proof who took the money so would not be able to dismiss these members of staff. Any of them. Nor suspend them.

The staff members involved would be scrutinised - this would mean they would be put onto a till that only they would be using for their shift, it would be cashed up at the end of their shift but it would be done in a way that they would not realise it. What do you think they do? Sack all of them? There are procedures in place for when money goes missing - only the staff probably do not realise it.

And first and foremost, it is the manager who gets it in the backside and it is them that has to sort it out - if they cannot then they are the one who is up on a disciplinary for not following correct procedures. Do you see what might have happened in the case of the OP.

They cannot prove who took that money as it was not counted at the end of her shift. So they cannot sack her for theft unless they have proof on CCTV.

All these procedures seem reasonable but it sounds like there's no requirement for retailers to follow them. From what other posters have said they can sack her with just "reasonable grounds to suspect".

1984ReturnsForReal_2

milothewestie wrote: »

sorry meant to thank everyone for your advice ill keep you posted on what happens

Ring a solicitor & see if you can arrange a meeting when the first hour is free.

blue_monkey_2

1984ReturnsForReal wrote: »

Could of been £200 & £20 up on a till.

At the moment I am thinking it just a bad process & bad maths

Could be any reason really. maybe someone has charged someone 19.99 instead of 199.99 and they paid cash. or gave the wrong amount on a gift card. Either way, they cannot just sack someone because they do not have the proof, the till was not checked at the end of the day. 15 more people could have used that till before it was counted. This is why they cannot sack the OP, because it was not counted at the end of her shift.

milothewestie

blue_monkey wrote: »

Could be any reason really. maybe someone has charged someone 19.99 instead of 199.99 and they paid cash. or gave the wrong amount on a gift card. Either way, they cannot just sack someone because they do not have the proof, the till was not checked at the end of the day. 15 more people could have used that till before it was counted. This is why they cannot sack the OP, because it was not counted at the end of her shift.

you have the wrong end of the stick here let me explain--

i went home at 2pm finished work

manager counted till and put away in safe end of business day 8pm

i recounted till in morning 7.30am and found it was £180 less than manager had counted,i brought it to there attention immediately

5 days later they suspended me just before christmas

and just sacked me yesterday after investigation saying i must of took this money which i didnt

milothewestie

milothewestie wrote: »

you have the wrong end of the stick here let me explain--

i went home at 2pm finished work

manager counted till and put away in safe end of business day 8pm

i recounted till in morning 7.30am and found it was £180 less than manager had counted,i brought it to there attention immediately

5 days later they suspended me just before christmas

and just sacked me yesterday after investigation saying i must of took this money which i didnt

sorry if i misled you

blue_monkey_2

starrystarry wrote: »

All these procedures seem reasonable but it sounds like there's no requirement for retailers to follow them. From what other posters have said they can sack her with just "reasonable grounds to suspect".

No, they cannot. They have to have proof. Otherwise there is no job in retail that is safe. This leaves any retail store to have a dodgy manager, stealing £1000 a week from a till, blaming the employee who was on the till that day and them sacking them but there being no retribution. Employment laws are there for a reason. Procedures are there for a reason.

Trust has a big part to play in retail hence people using the same till which is why most do it. But if money does go missing you cannot just sack the one person who was on the till for most of the day as it might not have been them that took the money.

1984ReturnsForReal_2

blue_monkey wrote: »

Could be any reason really. maybe someone has charged someone 19.99 instead of 199.99

That makes sense & the manager couldn't be bothered to check at the end of the day which is probably a requirement that if not fulfilled would mean their instant dismissal.

blue_monkey_2

milothewestie wrote: »

milothewestie wrote: »

you have the wrong end of the stick here let me explain--

i went home at 2pm finished work

manager counted till and put away in safe end of business day 8pm

i recounted till in morning 7.30am and found it was £180 less than manager had counted,i brought it to there attention immediately

5 days later they suspended me just before christmas

and just sacked me yesterday after investigation saying i must of took this money which i didnt

sorry if i misled you

No, it was the way it was written.

Who else had access to the safe? Did anyone else sign off the sheet the money when you initially counted it at 2pm.

Was the till down that day or was the money just missing the day after?

starrystarry

milothewestie wrote: »

you have the wrong end of the stick here let me explain--

i went home at 2pm finished work

manager counted till and put away in safe end of business day 8pm

i recounted till in morning 7.30am and found it was £180 less than manager had counted,i brought it to there attention immediately

5 days later they suspended me just before christmas

and just sacked me yesterday after investigation saying i must of took this money which i didnt

When the manager counted the till the night before, did it tally with the takings?