just been sacked for theft in retail

milothewestie

1984ReturnsForReal wrote: »

In which case you are better off out of there.

I am surprised they havent had a massive fine for what some would call dodgy sales tactics.

surely they need evidence,otherwise they could virtually just sack anyone they wanted like this and get away with it,its unbelievable i loved my job and was good at it,not just that why would i take 180 pounds after 10 years if i was gonna steel which i never would it would surely be a bigger amount

WhiteHorse

milothewestie wrote: »

... another rep rang me today was quite negative about appealing and also said this thing about them not needing proof in retail ...

Complain to the union head office. Make it plain that your representation has been of very poor quality.

They do have to show reasonable cause to believe. A wild allegation based on the fact that you were one of half a dozen who could have done it simply won't do.

I notice that their cash handling procedures seem to be very sloppy, that's something that will be in your favour.

1984ReturnsForReal_2

starrystarry wrote: »

What's that got to do with anything?

No idea.


So what is the sacking for?

That the OP cant add up or that they stole money?

1984ReturnsForReal_2

milothewestie wrote: »

surely they need evidence,otherwise they could virtually just sack anyone they wanted like this and get away with it,its unbelievable i loved my job and was good at it,not just that why would i take 180 pounds after 10 years if i was gonna steel which i never would it would surely be a bigger amount

It depends what you got the sack for.

Counting or Stealing

starrystarry

Uncertain wrote: »

To sack you fairly (in law) they only need reasonable grounds to suspect you have done something - this is nowhere near the criminal standard of proof - i.e. beyond a reasonable doubt.

3. It is worth noting that dismissals have been upheld even when somebody later managed to prove that they did not do whatever they were accused of. All that mattered was that it was reasonable for the firm to have held that belief at the time.

That sucks. They can sack someone with 10 years service just with "reasonable grounds to suspect". Doesn't seem fair to me.

milothewestie

Sambucus_Nigra wrote: »

Milo.

What actually happened - step by step?

You were on the till one day and.......

i went home from work at 2pm

manager locked till away counted by himself at 8pm

in morning i recounted till it was £180 short

originally said i had pinched 800 pounds but they found all the rest so just sacked me for this 180

suspended five days later

sacked five weeks later

milothewestie

1984ReturnsForReal wrote: »

No idea.


So what is the sacking for?

That the OP cant add up or that they stole money?

thay have said i stole this 180 pounds which i didnt

milothewestie

and its not my job counting the tills i do it on good will dont gert paid for it like i should of done

Sambucus_Nigra

milothewestie wrote: »

i went home from work at 2pm

manager locked till away counted by himself at 8pm

in morning i recounted till it was £180 short

originally said i had pinched 800 pounds but they found all the rest so just sacked me for this 180

suspended five days later

sacked five weeks later

Where did they find the rest?

Was anybody with the manager when it was counted?

Was anybody with you when it was counted?

Any CCTV where you were counting?

What is the normal procedure for money handling at the end and the start of the day?

Did you usually count up in the morning alone?

milothewestie

Sambucus_Nigra wrote: »

Where did they find the rest? the rest was missed transactions

Was anybody with the manager when it was counted? no

Was anybody with you when it was counted? no

Any CCTV where you were counting? no

What is the normal procedure for money handling at the end and the start of the day? yes

Did you usually count up in the morning alone?yes