just been sacked for theft in retail

WhiteHorse

milothewestie wrote: »

i... the manager said to me its different in retail and that they dont have to prove this (that i stole the money) ...

Lodge an appeal at once. They will then have to prove it.

If a member, contact the union.

Invite [firms name redacted] to contact the police with a view to prosecuting you. A criminal prosecution will require a higher standard of proof and will put them in the witness box.

If they are keen not to do so, that suggests that someone else is responsible for the missing money and that the manager may know who it is.

concerned43

milothewestie wrote: »

they suspended me on pay but i said it was the manager they should be looking at so they interviewed him and all they did was asked him questions about there procedure for counting the tills,no questions in his statement about the money going missing

As I said before they need to have a full investigation before sacking you and a big store like Argos will know the law with regards to disiplinary proceedings. they will ask you back for an interview and I would advise you to take in a friend (not a relative) and take down everything that is said and ask your witness to sign it.

ceridwen

I shall watch this and see what happens....I'm a bit confused here...as I would be extremely upset at the accusation personally...so I dont quite know why O.P. doesnt seem to be...

On a watching brief at the moment...

milothewestie

concerned43 wrote: »

As I said before they need to have a full investigation before sacking you and a big store like Argos will know the law with regards to disiplinary proceedings. they will ask you back for an interview and I would advise you to take in a friend (not a relative) and take down everything that is said and ask your witness to sign it.

they already sacked me for this,did take union with me she said basically they are taking the pi##,but another rep rang me today was quite negative about appealing and also said this thing about them not needing proof in retail,i cant believe it after 10 years im so upset

milothewestie

ceridwen wrote: »

I shall watch this and see what happens....I'm a bit confused here...as I would be extremely upset at the accusation personally...so I dont quite know why O.P. doesnt seem to be...

On a watching brief at the moment...

i dont understand why are u confused

1984ReturnsForReal_2

milothewestie wrote: »

argos sod it ill name them

In which case you are better off out of there.

I am surprised they havent had a massive fine for what some would call dodgy sales tactics.

starrystarry

1984ReturnsForReal wrote: »

I am surprised they havent had a massive fine for what some would call dodgy sales tactics.

What's that got to do with anything?

Sambucus_Nigra

Milo.

What actually happened - step by step?

You were on the till one day and.......

Desperado99

concerned43 wrote: »

As I said before they need to have a full investigation before sacking you and a big store like Argos will know the law with regards to disiplinary proceedings. they will ask you back for an interview and I would advise you to take in a friend (not a relative) and take down everything that is said and ask your witness to sign it.

Absolutely agree. I had a similar situation years ago where £200 went missing (I was a student, working there for the summer, and was used as a scapegoat). I had an interview with head office bloke and the shop steward insisted that he sit in with me even though I wasn't in a union or anything.

I wasn't sacked, but I got a written warning - I still believe that the management gave it to me instead of one the regular staff to keep their record clean.

Uncertain

WhiteHorse wrote: »

Lodge an appeal at once. They will then have to prove it.

If a member, contact the union.

Invite Argos to contact the police with a view to prosecuting you. A criminal prosecution will require a higher standard of proof and will put them in the witness box.

If they are keen not to do so, that suggests that someone else is responsible for the missing money and that the manager may know who it is.

This could be good advice.

However, do remember that.....

1. You can't make them call the police.

2. To sack you fairly (in law) they only need reasonable grounds to suspect you have done something - this is nowhere near the criminal standard of proof - i.e. beyond a reasonable doubt.

3. It is worth noting that dismissals have been upheld even when somebody later managed to prove that they did not do whatever they were accused of. All that mattered was that it was reasonable for the firm to have held that belief at the time.

Sorry not to have better news.