why are people still driving too fast?

neilmcl

Flyboy152 wrote: »

Why would you not drive in sixth gear, at fifty miles per hour. I can only imagine doing that if I was driving something above three litres and then not for very long.

Have you had much experience in many makes of car. Driving a BMW 3 series diesel between 40-50mph in sixth can be very sluggish, not the best gear to be in at all.

passatrider

Flyboy152 wrote: »

If things like that upset you so much, then I think you are the one who needs to reconsider their mode of transport.

I wonder if you were the inconsiderate person who felt the need to tailgate me in a 30mph zone yesterday?
When I stopped and asked them why I was told to fcuk ++ff and go w++k myself!

Ps. This was a female driver too!:(

Stephen_Leak

passatrider wrote: »

I wonder if you were the inconsiderate person who felt the need to tailgate me in a 30mph zone yesterday?
When I stopped and asked them why I was told to fcuk ++ff and go w++k myself!

Ps. This was a female driver too!:(

Just pull over, and let them pass. It used to be called Defensive Driving.

And never argue with an idiot. They just bring you down to their level and beat you with their experience.

alastairq

Driving test examiners will expect a test candidate to keep up with the flow of traffic and if the conditions allow they will expect the candidate to be able to demonstrate that they can drive safely at the speed limit and make adequate progress. If they drive at a speed which is below the speed limit in conditions which are deemed safe to drive faster then they will be failed for this

A common misconception as to what the driving test is all about....

The driving test is an assessment of competence, that is all.

To assess driver competence, the examiner will need to see that the driver is competent [able] to keep up with the 'flow' of traffic, in other words, not prevent other road users from making progress.

this part of the assessment is not intended to be a blueprint for all future driving styles....simply...is the candidate 'able?'

''Undue hesitation'' means, failing to proceed when it is obviously clear and safe to do so....more commonly a fault acquired when the candidate is having a crisis of confidence at roundabouts, for example.

''Slow speed'' has really to be an established trait throughout the test......in other words, demonstrating the candidate really lacks the confidence needed to make better progress.

Candidates often fall foul of these two faults, simply because they fail to understand what a driving test is really all about.
They seem indoctrinated into the idea that, for a driving test one behaves in one certain manner, and when out ''in the real world''[what on earth is that, anyway?]..one behaves very differently.

The reality is, the driving test is simply where one demonstrates one can drive normally....just like one would do on any other day of the week.

It is pure urban myth that convinces people otherwise.

In fact, in very simple terms, the car driving test [cat B] is simply a demonstration of competence, that the candidate can drive from point A to point B, and park when they get there....also, if they get lost, they can in fact turn the car around and get back on the 'right' road.

These days, the candidate will also need to demonstrate they can follow a route without being directed..ie reading road signs...


Today's new drivers are far better equipped to drive on the roads, unsupervised, than those of 30 years ago.

I do not really understand this 'myth' that is generated about motorways..and 'training'...?
Apart from the fact there exists a 'Pass-Plus' scheme for additional training...which happens to include motorways....what is the issue?

If a student driver has not been instructed on using a dual carriageway, then they need to ask their instructor for additional training....before the test.

Motorways, in my view, require no specialised training.

They are far safer [by that, the meaning is...'easier to drive on] than any other class of road.

They are safer, by default, because they don't have [by law] all the conflicting traffic found on other classes of road.

they are so safe, they can be, and are, populated by a huge number of drivers who are totally ignorant of the law, or simply, incapable of showing the requisite consideration for other road users......with little risk to the safety and well-being of other drivers ....

In fact, the only time drivers create 'problems' for others, is when they comply with the law.

So the next time a slower vehicle gets you lot all wound up, thinking of relegating certain drivers to the railways...consider it may be your driver skills in need of, erm..enhancement.

Why?

Because of an inability to cope with others?

Which, of course, is something one could acquire a 'serious driving fault' for, on a simple driving test?

Flyboy152

passatrider wrote: »

I wonder if you were the inconsiderate person who felt the need to tailgate me in a 30mph zone yesterday?
When I stopped and asked them why I was told to fcuk ++ff and go w++k myself!

Ps. This was a female driver too!:(

Now that was hardly likely, really, was it?

If I am advocating that drivers do not drive too fast, how could I have been the one who was tailgating you?

Inactive

Trebor16 wrote: »

Driving test examiners will expect a test candidate to keep up with the flow of traffic and if the conditions allow they will expect the candidate to be able to demonstrate that they can drive safely at the speed limit and make adequate progress. If they drive at a speed which is below the speed limit in conditions which are deemed safe to drive faster then they will be failed for this.

Utter twaddle.

So where did you get that information from?

Are you a DSA Examiner ?

Or did you hear it down the pub?

Trebor16

Inactive wrote: »

Utter twaddle.

So where did you get that information from?

Are you a DSA Examiner ?

Or did you hear it down the pub?

You think it is utter twaddle? Perhaps you can qualfy your remarks with some evidence to back up your assertions? In the meantime I will rely on my 30 years of experience of teaching people to ride motorcycles at all levels from absolute beginner to preparing them for their DSA test, and many conversations I have had with DSA driving test examiners on the subject of what is required for the driving test and why people fail.

Inactive

Trebor16 wrote: »

You think it is utter twaddle? Perhaps you can qualfy your remarks with some evidence to back up your assertions? In the meantime I will rely on my 30 years of experience of teaching people to ride motorcycles at all levels from absolute beginner to preparing them for their DSA test, and many conversations I have had with DSA driving test examiners on the subject of what is required for the driving test and why people fail.

So, as I suspected, you are not a DSA Examiner.

A driving test candidate will not fail if they do not reach the maximum speed limit even if conditions allow, they will of course be expected to make normal progress.

Trebor16

Inactive wrote: »

So, as I suspected, you are not a DSA Examiner.

A driving test candidate will not fail if they do not reach the maximum speed limit even if conditions allow, they will of course be expected to make normal progress.

Are you a DSA examiner or a car/motorcycle instructor?

esmerobbo

scragend wrote: »

Before they pass they can drive to the road's limit!

YAWN!!! pedant! However we were talking about after!!!!