why are people still driving too fast?

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newbie007 wrote: »

Try it in a test, you will fail miserably. It's common knowledge this will result in a fail for those who knows regarding this aspect. Clearly you are not one of those who knows.

And of course you are?

Nope, I thought not, you heard it down the pub.

newbie007_2

Inactive wrote: »

And of course you are?

Nope, I thought not, you heard it down the pub.

I don't need to be an examiner to know this. You are the one hearing it down the pub

thescouselander

Flyboy152 wrote: »

I think you are confusing the difference with driving at fifty miles per hour, when the speed limit is seventy and driving at twenty miles per hour, when the speed limit is thirty.

I don think there is a difference - you could potentially fail on both depending on the circumstances.

alastairq

I fully agree, it happens often around here, we have a disproportionate amount of elderly drivers who think they have nothing better to do than to any other road users. I was behind one of them the other day. I flashed my lights at them to let them know I was there, they waved at me and slowed down even more, from thirty to twenty-five. Nothing in front, a clear and wide road ahead of them.

a presumption there, which isn't safe to make?

One of the aspects of getting old[er] is an acute awareness of fragility and vulnerability.

Someone sat behind [often at less than the proscribed [HC?} 2 second gap...]...flashing their headlights [for whatever reason., HC apart]...can be seen as intimidation [which is likely the underlying reason]....

It appears your elderly driver did exactly the right thing...by acknowledging your presence [and assumed desires] by slowing to allow you to pass even more easily?

But your actions beg the question...if the road was indeed so wide and clear of hazards [in your view]....why did you simply not plan and execute an overtake?

If the vehicle had not been a car driven by an elderly person...but had been a tractor instead...would your actions have been the same?

After all...whether it's a tractor doing 30, or a car, really isn't relevant in the scheme of things....

It is a vehicle, it is moving..it is an obstacle to one's ability to progress...so....look for an opportunity to overtake...and do so.

simple...

driving doesn't have to be so personal as some would like to make it.

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newbie007 wrote: »

I don't need to be an examiner to know this.

As usual, you are well out of your depth.

alastairq

you could potentially fail on both depending on the circumstances.

a candidate could also fail for not applying/confirming handbrake and neutral in the correct order.

Which is not to say an examiner would note a fault....but the prospect is there in any event.

A single instance of failing to drive at...or close to, the prevailing speed limit in itself will be noted [ probably mentally] but it is doubtful at that stage a written note would be applied.

If a pattern is established throughout the road drive, then faults may be accumulated [ie noted on the marking guide]....resulting in an accumulative serious fault.

But..in the end, the examiner is looking for competence.

nothing more

newbie007_2

Inactive wrote: »

As usual, you are well out of your depth.

You are the one who is out of your depth, you just cannot accept it when others points this out to you.

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newbie007 wrote: »

You are the one who is out of your depth, you just cannot accept it when others points this out to you.

No, because I am correct, that is why.

Care to prove me wrong?

cyclonebri1

Geordie_bear wrote: »

not at all if everyone drove at 50 mph & if people left a good gap for the car in front then everyone would get to their destinations sooner & they'd be no accelerate/break chain reaction which causes traffic jams. People need to see the bigger picture!

That's been shown as not true.

newbie007_2

Trebor16 wrote: »

You think it is utter twaddle? Perhaps you can qualfy your remarks with some evidence to back up your assertions? In the meantime I will rely on my 30 years of experience of teaching people to ride motorcycles at all levels from absolute beginner to preparing them for their DSA test, and many conversations I have had with DSA driving test examiners on the subject of what is required for the driving test and why people fail.

He cannot as he heard it from the pub.

Inactive wrote: »

No, because I am correct, that is why.

Care to prove me wrong?

Are u an examiner? Do you speak to examiners on those topics? Or are connected to how the DSA conduct tests?

As in your own words - (you are) as usual you're out of your depth, talk utter twaddle.