why are people still driving too fast?

TBagpuss

I would worry about the driving skills of someone who was unable to "read" the drivers around them.

But if you don't indicate before trying to overtake you are making it unecessarily harder for other drivers to 'read' you...

The driver ahead may well have 'read' that you are impatient and would like to go faster. If they were previously going slowly because, in their judgment, it was safer to do so (bear in mind they can see more of the road ahead) or becasue they had no need to hury until you appear on their tail, they may well then speed up so as not to delay you. After all, as you haven't indicated you're obviously not planning on overtaking...

Let's face it, if they want to be deliberately obstructive, you not indicating isn't going to prevent them, it's just going to mean that their obstruction takes the form of (for instance) speeding up or swinging towards the centre of the road **as** you pass, instead of before you pull out, which must surely be more dangerous!

mikey72

Strider590 wrote: »

Have to be vigilant these days, try telling me this car driver wasn't trying to be obstructive.

My sympathies are with the motorcyclist in this case, as the driver was found guilty, but there must be enough other reasons for a motorist to have to move over, so is it really good practice for a motorcyclist to overtake into oncoming traffic, and rely on a gap between the cars not to close.

Strider590

TBagpuss wrote: »

Let's face it, if they want to be deliberately opbstructive, you not indicating isn't going to prevent them, it's just going to mean that their obstruction takes the form of (for instance) speeding up or swinging towards the centre of the road **as** you pass, instead of before you pull out, which must surely be more dangerous!

No warning if safer for everyone...... I would say something like 80% of drivers will now accelerate or try to prevent someone overtaking them.

Even an OAP (in a Pug 406 estate and towing a trailer full of garden rubbish) has tried to stop me executing a perfectly safe and legal overtaking manoeuvre!!!!!!!
In this instance however I backed off and overtook him less than 20 seconds later when it was once again safe to do so.

mikey72

Strider590 wrote: »

No warning if safer for everyone...... I would say something like 80% of drivers will now accelerate or try to prevent someone overtaking them.

Even an OAP (in a Pug 406 estate and towing a trailer full of garden rubbish) has tried to stop me executing a perfectly safe and legal overtaking manoeuvre!!!!!!!
In this instance however I backed off and overtook him less than 20 seconds later when it was once again safe to do so.

It's got to be you.
Round here we indicate, flash the lights to make sure if we need to, (normally usually for tractors, as they're wider than the nearside of the road), go past, then a couple of beeps and a wave if they moved over to the left to let you pass.
You seem far to keen to prove a point if you can't force your way through first time.

jase1

neilmcl wrote: »

What really annoys me is those drivers who potter around at the same speed regardless of where they are, ie, they'll drive below the speed limit, doing 40-45mph on a clear 60mph road, and carry on with at that speed as they drive through a village with a 30mph zone. They are probably the sort that bleat about people driving to fast but fail to realise that they're inherently more dangerous than anybody doing 80+ on a motorway.

Absolutely, 100% completely and utterly correct.

These are the worst drivers on the road IMO.

Speeding in the worst possible areas (built-up, twisty village roads) combined with a complete lack of attentiveness -- a lethal combination.

Why are speed cameras NEVER placed in these small, remote villages?

mikey72

jase1 wrote: »

Absolutely, 100% completely and utterly correct.

These are the worst drivers on the road IMO.

Speeding in the worst possible areas (built-up, twisty village roads) combined with a complete lack of attentiveness -- a lethal combination.

Why are speed cameras NEVER placed in these small, remote villages?

We don't need them.
Sandford
Hot Fuzz.
You'll only speed once, you won't speed coming back.

Flyboy152

Strider590 wrote: »

I would worry about the driving skills of someone who was unable to "read" the drivers around them. To me it's blindly obvious when someone is being obstructive.......

Since when was telepathy a requirement on the driving test?