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richardw

peterbaker wrote: »

...this is also a story about a principled person's pursuit of truth....

and similar to those who are fighting for their rights from airlines re Regulation EC261/2004.

malnik

bagand96 wrote: »

I was forced to pay £5 for the priveledge of using my own electricity, paper and printer ink.

I begrudge the unavoidable online check-in fee, because it IS unavoidable. And I don't buy the "it is avoidable if you book the Free online check in" fares, as these are not available for all flights.

Thats not right is it? Surely the Ryanair man wasn't sitting behind you with a gun saying buy this ticket or else?
No one is forced to travel with them.
And I am no apologist for them either, I always check the others flying to the same place or close, and Ryanair are only cheaper about 50% of the time we fly. So we dont go with them. In fact sometimes they are the most expensive......and no one forces me to print anything with them.

apt

malnik wrote: »

Thats not right is it? Surely the Ryanair man wasn't sitting behind you with a gun saying buy this ticket or else?
No one is forced to travel with them.
And I am no apologist for them either, I always check the others flying to the same place or close, and Ryanair are only cheaper about 50% of the time we fly. So we dont go with them. In fact sometimes they are the most expensive......and no one forces me to print anything with them.

It's no longer correct only in that Ryanair now charges a £6 online check-in fee for the great majority of its flights. Yes you still have the option to say no, but it's dishonest pricing and the OFT should bring O'Leary to book and Jet2 that pull the same stunt.

bagand96

Thats not right is it? Surely the Ryanair man wasn't sitting behind you with a gun saying buy this ticket or else?

:wall:

Well obviously. That's not the point I'm making. I have no problem with Ryanair, or their optional extras. Like you I use them when they are cheapest, which isn't all the time.

However the online check in fee is a moot point. It is unavoidable. You have to check in order to use the ticket you are buying. It is just a mechanism for them to reduce their headline fare, nothing more.

It's the equivalent of buying a train ticket and then getting to the turnstile and being asked for a fiver to get to the platform.

whatmichaelsays

These threads tread the same path - usually the "Ryanair are all ****s and everybody who disagrees is an 'apologist'"

There is no question in my view that Ryanair have been good for the airline industry. Certainly from my perspective, I no longer have to drive to Manchester and pay £300 for a return flight to Dublin to see one of my clients. Instead, I can travel from my local airport, at a time that suits me, and fly for peanuts. I rarely pay more than £50 return, even at relatively late notice. Sorry, but if that makes me an apologist, so be it.

Oh, and can the fans of these "better airlines" tell me how much Ryanair have been fined for collusion and price fixing in recent years? Call me picky, but that is far more unavoidable and far more heinous than a £6 credit card fee.

stoneman

Jimavfc82 wrote: »

Made me laugh that!

As others said i don't see the problem with printing in advance, definitely better having that option than having it incorporated in the cost as with other airlines. The reason they fine is to try and get extra money for them and also to force people into printing in advance, reducing their overheads which seems fair enough. As long as they keep offering flights at the prices they do i am happy with them

But it doesn't reduce their overheads. They have staff at the airport anyway and printing machines. Have you ever seen the line for people checking in bags?
Look it is all about catching out the unwary, always has been a ploy with them. Every Time they get pulled up about it they have to rejig the website to comply with something or another. All it is is another revenue stream to line the pockets of Mr. O'Leary and the shareholders.
The "well it is in the terms so you are aware of the penalty" (because that is what it is) thing doesn't work. They could put in the T&C's that you have to print the boarding pass on pink A3 in Cosmic Sans font if they wanted to for that matter, but that wouldn't be right would it?
For the record I have no problem printing out my BP either,I do it even when flying with "full service" airlines, it just stinks when the "fee" for them doing it is so high. Totally unnecessary.
BTW I have never once found a flight with them cheaper than with a competitor for the same route I have flown on because they don't suit what I want. Also I don't fly to destinations that don't have a vowel in the name!

Flyboy152

whatmichaelsays wrote: »

These threads tread the same path - usually the "Ryanair are all ****s and everybody who disagrees is an 'apologist'"

There is no question in my view that Ryanair have been good for the airline industry. Certainly from my perspective, I no longer have to drive to Manchester and pay £300 for a return flight to Dublin to see one of my clients. Instead, I can travel from my local airport, at a time that suits me, and fly for peanuts. I rarely pay more than £50 return, even at relatively late notice. Sorry, but if that makes me an apologist, so be it.

Oh, and can the fans of these "better airlines" tell me how much Ryanair have been fined for collusion and price fixing in recent years? Call me picky, but that is far more unavoidable and far more heinous than a £6 credit card fee.

How much has RyanUnfair been fined for screwing their customers?

jammin_2

Flyboy152 wrote: »

RyanUnfair

You make yourself look really sad when you do that.

whatmichaelsays

Flyboy152 wrote: »

How much has RyanUnfair been fined for screwing their customers?

Who has been screwed and where? Ryanair charge people who don't stick to the terms of their ticket or those who want services that are above and beyond the standard fare. What is wrong with that?

And why are people happy to forgive / forget the likes of BA for illegally colluding to "screw" customers but lighting quick to kick up a fuss about a £5 speedy boarding fee?

phatbear

whatmichaelsays wrote: »

but lighting quick to kick up a fuss about a £5 speedy boarding fee?

oddly we were talking about this as work this morning, dont know if anyone saw "come fly with me" but the bit where the check in "lady" sells a speedy boarding pass to a lady, and then the lady asks if this service is popular and she says "oh yes i've sold one to everyone on this flight"