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jammin_2

Flyboy152 wrote: »

Excuse me??????

Done......

Flyboy152

And that is your sole contribution to this thread. Wow, your debating technique is worse than reported.

malkie76

I'm failing to get the 'hoohaa' - RyanAir are but one of many airline choices, if you don't like their beef then dine elsewhere (unless you want to go to Linz, Austria).

peterbaker

jammin and malkie, I have said this before so you might forgive me when I say again that your suggestion of using another airline is so completely "last century" that I wonder in fact if either of you travel regularly in Europe at all?

Ryanair has been the most prolificly expanding airline in Europe for 10 years. It left behind all its main competitors for market share years ago. It has opened up so many routes to Europe that the thought of jumping into the car and catching a ferry instead makes most hardened motorists shudder with anticipated boredom and the thought of unexpected traffic jams and of course fuel bills.

Ryanair has grabbed for itself, and has long retained a position as a heavily-taxpayer-subsidised aviation business of the type that in my youth could only be enjoyed by a top notch national flag carrier (i.e. as a licensed recipient of tens of millions of litres of tax-free fuel).

So, as Europe's most flown airline by far, maybe it should represent its public with just a little more respect at times. It should be perhaps just a tad more 'umble...

One or two other entire European nations feel this way. Clearly the Spanish judge felt he needed to put a stake in the ground. The French got a bit uptight over his financial acumen in getting local chambers of commerce or similar to pay HIM to bring his aircraft to their parlours ... maybe that one he was right to fight ... but ...

Here is yet one further example where O'Leary is blowing continual raspberries at an entire government representing a very fair-minded people (English translation supplied by Ryanair) http://www.ryanair.com/da/news/ryanair-kraever-forbrugerombudsmanden-fjernet

He almost always makes me smile when I see his antics when interviewed on tv, but I really would like to understand better why he feels he needs to act this way. Maybe he has a fear of meaningful relationships and his behaviour is designed for his eventual quick escape to retirement with people feeling the same about him as they always did ... i.e. no surprise, its M O'L ... what did you expect?

He's a hero in many ways for cleverly changing the face of European aviation so that we the great unwashed have all benefited from the economies of the latest superbly efficient generation of aircraft rather than governments, manufacturers, his own company, or the faceless deal-makers who arrange the airframe and engine leases; and yet at times he commands almost zero respect from people that care about models of fairness.

Flyboy152

He does have a cheek about accusing the Danish about "misleading consumers in advertised prices," the man almost invented the practice. He has reminded me of another scandal he perpetuated, that was cancelling all tickets, purchased from brokers, without notice. And then having the audacity to sell them back to his customers at a higher price.

malkie76

jammin and malkie, I have said this before so you might forgive me when I say again that your suggestion of using another airline is so completely "last century" that I wonder in fact if either of you travel regularly in Europe at all?

You are absolutely right; RyanAir indeed do fly to totally random places in Europe that others don't. However, that doesn't stop you using other airlines, so I'm not sure I see your point.

peterbaker

You are absolutely right; RyanAir indeed do fly to totally random places in Europe that others don't.

Nope I did not say that because it just isn't true. Ryanair exploited part of the legacy of the cold war. Ryanair realised that people fly to and from where they want to go to or come back to. People who live near Stansted don't give two hoots for Heathrow and what it takes to battle across London and park there.

I shall fly long haul later in the year and even though BA were cheapest from Heathrow, I've actually chosen to pay a bit more to fly from my back yard not theirs, even though there is a short connecting flight involved to Amsterdam. My choice.

The Americans and others by their scheming and influence undermined the USSR and when it came apart it did so much faster than any of us dinosaurs imagined. There was very soon no exclusive miltary need for the use for thousands of perfectly serviceable 10,000 feet runways all over Europe and what is more, an instant market of non restricted travellers who always lived in what you call the "random places" surrounding these perfect pieces of military grade tarmac, but about whom you hadn't the faintest idea because you mightn't have majored in the necessary humanities, ... yes from Poland and the Baltic and the all the other states reborn or re-invigorated on the map in the last two decades - their peoples all wanted the same as you and me, to see a bit more of the world on their doorstep and beyond.

Who cares whether Ryanair lands in Skavsta or Hahn or Gerona?

Only those people who don't get it that the buyers of airplane tickets who have wanted to "travel" in the last 10 years haven't put much emphasis on collecting labels that say LHR-BCN like the Joneses did in the 70s or 80s. If they live near Bournemouth and they want to go to cheap accommodation and see a week long fireworks competition on he beach at Blanes, then they will most definitely be in the market for tickets that say BOH-GRO!

So, in summary, I fail to see your point. Why would I want to use another airline if it doesn't have the route selection I want? Better to give custom to the airline that goes where I want, whilst letting that airline know how I feel about certain things and what I would please like changed, especially since my taxes subsidise their business

malkie76

Now you've really, really lost me. Anyone is free to use RyanAir, and everyone is free not to use RyanAir. Do you disagree ?