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Redten Internet offer FREE computer woth £500 if you sign up for 3 years @ £19.99 pm!
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Benjimoron,
Thankyou for the info that you have posted. I am a little concerned that it had to come by way of you, who I have followed and respected on this forum. I am glad that you are sorted and happy with your new service. But if you are in contact with Baber tell him to get on this forum so he can get our details and end our service so we too can have a better more peaceful life.
I am very sorry but the new offer is total unaceptable as I will loose my free unlimited phone calls between my home and mobiles that I have. This is something that is to important for me loose and only costs me including line rental with evening and weekend calls £12 (Mobiles are £10 for both). As you see I will yet again be worse off because of REDTEN. With reference to my phone service it was with ONETEL and they were bought out by TALK TALK who honoured my existing contract and recently also lowered my line rental. A good example of how service transfer should be done.
Ron.
PS Hugo it would be good to meet up.Ron.
RBB10006057.
No longer waiting REDTEN:D0 -
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rebellion_x wrote: »they tried the other isp's fair use policy excuse with me saying that they all have limits in the small print.
If they do its not obvious.I will have another look0 -
From ZDNET,If they dont know how to police it then how is the redten cap at 15GB proving anything >>>>>>>>>>>
A Belgium court ruled that ISPs have to take steps to thwart peer-to-peer networks and piracy. Good luck delivering on that one.
The ruling could be significant since it sets a precedent in the European Union, but there are a few nuts and bolts to figure out on the technology side.
How exactly will an ISP turn these P2P networks off? How many customers will be alienated? And TorrentFreak raises the biggest question of all: How will an ISP determine a legal packet of data from one that infringes on a copyright? I don’t have the answers ready, but that’s OK–rest assured the Belgium court doesn’t either. It’s presently unclear how this ISP (Scarlet) is going to conform to the court’s ruling in six months. Sure a network provider can prioritize packets–say a large video file vs. a Word doc–but it not clear whether data can be examined en route.
Predictably the International Federation of the Phonographic Industry (IFPI) “warmly welcomed” that ruling. The IFPI statement comes a day after the group noted that music sales are getting hammered by piracy.
Here’s the IFPI’s take:A court in Belgium has confirmed that an Internet Service Provider must take responsibility for stopping illegal file-sharing on its network. The ruling is the first of its kind in Europe and, since it implements EU legislation, it sets an important precedent in the fight against piracy internationally.The judgment is warmly welcomed by the international recording industry, which has been pressing for action by ISPs to curb piracy on their networks.The judge said that ISPs have the technical means at their disposal to either block or filter copyright-infringing material on P2P networks and gave the ISP Scarlet (formerly Tiscali) six months to implement such measures.The judgment pointed in particular to the filtering technology developed by Audible Magic. It also referred to six other possible solutions to block the traffic of unlicensed music, which are highlighted in an experts’ report commissioned by the court. This is the first case in Europe that has examined in detail the technologies that are available to block or filter copyright-infringing traffic on file-sharing networks.The Belgian court was ruling on a case brought by the body representing authors and composers in Belgium, SABAM, against the ISP Tiscali.IFPI Chairman and CEO John Kennedy said: “This is an extremely significant ruling which bears out exactly what we have been saying for the last two years - that the internet’s gatekeepers, the ISPs, have a responsibility to help control copyright-infringing traffic on their networks. The court has confirmed that the ISPs have both a legal responsibility and the technical means to tackle piracy. This is a decision that we hope will set the mould for government policy and for courts in other countries in Europe and around the world.But short of turning off access by all P2P sites it’s unclear how this ruling will be carried out. Anyone out there have a clue how an ISP could examine every packet from a P2P network, check for copyright infringements and then pass it along?
IDIOTS :mad: :mad: :mad:
My contract clearly states that it is subject to UK law. I fail to see how the decision of a court in Belgium can be used as justification for breaching the terms of my contract. Redten are employing yet more smoke and mirrors to explain themselves. Clode are running with it in the hope that we will swallow it, hook line and sinker. Keep up the pressure on clode, they carry the greatest financial risk in this sorry debacle. When seeking restitution, you always go for the bloke with the deepest pockets. Redten's pockets only contain a mortgage.0 -
Sky relies on our users being fair and considerate of others in their broadband usage. If one person is excessive in their use, this may result in a temporary loss of service quality and speed for other users.
Currently, however, our FUP has no effect on our broadband users because we have sufficient capacity. Even in the future, as long as you do not use Sky Broadband excessively, for example, use file sharing software (including peer-to-peer) or regularly download very large files, you will most probably never be affected by the policy.0 -
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My contract clearly states that it is subject to UK law. I fail to see how the decision of a court in Belgium can be used as justification for breaching the terms of my contract. Redten are employing yet more smoke and mirrors to explain themselves. Clode are running with it in the hope that we will swallow it, hook line and sinker. Keep up the pressure on clode, they carry the greatest financial risk in this sorry debacle. When seeking restitution, you always go for the bloke with the deepest pockets. Redten's pockets only contain a mortgage.
thats what i was rying to demonstrate by posting a copy of this article ,it actually says they dont know how to police it so it cant be done and its a good excuse for a smokescreen0 -
And the brithish way!
CARPHONE WAREHOUSE boss Charles Dunstone has told the British Phonograph Industry (BPI) what do do with its threats of legal action according to the Beeb.
The music industry organisation has insisted that Talk Talk – the UK's third biggest ISP and part of the CW group, – should "educate their customers not to steal music". The BPI has also called for ISPs to disconect people who ignore requests to stop sharing music.
Dunstone said that the demands were "unreasonable and unworkable" and maintained that his company would refuse to cooperate despite threats of legal action. He also told the BBC that it was not his job to be an internet policeman.
The BPI apparently went into a sulk and said it would tell the government if it didn't get its own way.‘I am not a number, I’m a free man’0 -
Did they release you from the clode contract aswell ??
No, I'm pursuing that separately, however I needed the provision of moving over at a moments notice without problems.
Basically heres the story (was sent to another redten customer via email) -RedTen just gave me my MAC code no questions!
I know it doesnt get me out of the clode agreement, but it will allow me to get reliable access, as it is still slow!
I phoned them up and actually redten are answering quite quickly (2 mins!!!) I got hung up 3 times but he eventually passed the details to NJP. To be honest I was a little dubious redten had done anything, but I spoke to NJP (10 mins) and they confirmed they had received a request and its on its way over.
Then came the phone call for a MAC code WOW!0 -
No, I'm pursuing that separately, however I needed the provision of moving over at a moments notice without problems.
Basically heres the story (was sent to another redten customer via email) -
Congrats on your mac code but this is perfect for redten as you now wont use your bandwidth and you still pay for it .
Your up the creek as they say ,just like me as i took my mac on day one.
The only benefit is you can now go to another isp but like me you pay twice.0
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