MMR & autism Not just bad science but also falsified

grey_lady

Ending up deaf due to measles is quite unusual though isn't it? Personally Ive had 2 out of the 3 illnesses that the mmr covers, as did all the other kids in my street and none of us had any long term effects.
Equally I've known a child lose most of her hearing due to a virus that wasn't any of the childhood illnesses.

Also vaccinations don't always last forever, doesn't rubella only cover you for 15 years or so? In which case why aren't we having it every 15 years.

I think there are to many accounts of parents noticing their child becoming poorly within hours of the vaccine for it not to at least be taken seriously, the government has actually paid out compensation for vaccine damage in a couple of cases after the mmr.

I have no idea if this is significant or not but the measles element of the mmr is what they call a live vaccine, all of the other childhood vaccines are inactive.

Mankysteve

grey_lady wrote: »

Also vaccinations don't always last forever, doesn't rubella only cover you for 15 years or so? In which case why aren't we having it every 15 years.

Have you seen a proper carried out survey that shows this?

grey_lady wrote: »

I have no idea if this is significant or not but the measles element of the mmr is what they call a live vaccine, all of the other childhood vaccines are inactive.

There are few vaccines that contain live but damaged to prevent reproduction vaccines.

Messrs_Arthur_and_Terry

There's a whole new breed of diseases out there, that have been allowed to mutate because cluster groups have cherrypicked immunisation for their precious kids. Even tuberculosis is making a comeback.

Parents have to ask themselves if heart damage, deafness, blindness, sterility, meningitis, encephalitis, brain damage and even death are worth risking by not immunising. Women have to ask themselves if they want to return to the good old Victorian days when infant mortality was factored into the number of pregnancies and funerals they were expected to endure.

If anyone has had shingles, like I have had as an adult, you would know how you even consider death to escape the non stop stabbing pains like knitting needles peircing right through your body parts.

patchwork_cat

I agree that a major concern I have with the way that the govt. has handled this is the out and out refusal to allow the single vaccine at intervals, why? Oh they will say take up, but IMO if you offered the 3 in 1 unless requested otherwise the parents that request single vaccine are on the whole the ones that will ensure that all the vaccines are done. I HATE being told what to do it makes me very suspicious of motives. I have said before that both my parents were Dr's, one was very pro vaccines and one approached each one with caution.

Do not overwhelm the immune systems of babies. Every single virus and infection is new to them and then we ask them to have an immune response to diseases they may never get and certainly not all the same time. A more softly softly approach will still have the same end result just maybe not as quickly.

[Deleted User]

Erm.. it's called science. Would you want your cancer drugs researched using 'anecdotal evidence' ?

Do not overwhelm the immune systems of babies

And how do you know the tolerances of how many different viruses a baby can handle? Never had a baby suffering a cold AND an ear infection?

Stupid people are the problem. Stupid people who make ideas up in their stupid heads and believe they know anything about human physiology and medicine.

sassyblue

I want to know why then the measles virus is found in the intestines of children with Autism?

I gave my son the MMR in the end but a year later than advised, the Labour Government were disgraceful to only offer the MMR and not single jabs, since when did we become a dictatorship?

I looked into this ALOT and could never come to a conclusion but l know my son had to be vaccinated. My friend works in healthcare, they HAVE to say it's safe whether they believe it or not. She gave her child single vaccines 'just in case'. Go figure!

onlyroz

grey_lady wrote: »

Also vaccinations don't always last forever, doesn't rubella only cover you for 15 years or so? In which case why aren't we having it every 15 years.

If you're planning on getting pregnant then your GP will check your rubella immunity - if you don't have it then they'll give you an MMR.

cheepskate_2

Mankysteve wrote: »

If there was link between MMR and autism someone would have proved it by now. There plenty of data been collected.

As can be said for the opposite.

conradmum

What people who are concerned about a triple jab 'overwhelming' the immune system forget is that the first vaccinations babies get are triple jabs too. It is DTP (diptheria, tetanus and pertussis - whooping cough). At the same time, babies are given polio vaccine and Hib (meningitis). So in fact, babies have been receiving a triple vaccine at a very young age for about 50 years, as well as the later polio vaccine and the more recent meningitis vaccine.

Yes, that's five vaccines given three times by the age of 6 months. Yet people are concerned about the MMR being 'too much'. There was no concern about DTP being an excessive challenge to the immune system when it was introduced, people were just grateful for it. It's completely normal for the immune system to constantly react to challenges. In fact, there's evidence that we're healthier for it.

conradmum

cheepskate wrote: »

As can be said for the opposite.

Yes, you're right. And it has been proven there is no link, based on the large amount of data collected.