12 points!

sarahg1969

Gene_Hunt wrote: »

You can have 1mm of tread on the outer edge. 75% across the centre of the tyre must be 1.6mm or above.

And there are plenty of tales of tyres being measured in the wrong place.

If the OP could go back and retrieve his, it may be helpful. I wonder if the garage was a small one? And if the officer marked the tyre where he measured it?

DUTR

mrbadexample wrote: »

But that's not the point, is it? The legal limit for his vehicle is 1.6mm. Anything under that and an offence is committed. Anything equal to or over and all is well.

It is the point though, who cares whether it is legal or not, driving in the wet and snow and ice is highly diminshed, when the OP wraps himself around a tree etc, it's all ok cos he was legal? Just hope his Mrs aint a minger cos she is still gonna be wanting it if the OP finds them self in a fatal situation

Gene_Hunt_2

mrbadexample wrote: »

Well, I didn't say it would necessarily be easy. But, depending on where he took it, the tyre fitter may not have had a busy day, he may remember where he put it, what make it was etc. The op may be able to remember the make - it might be the only one of that make changed today.

If he's done his job properly, the officer will have noted the serial number of the tyre. If it goes to court, this should be noted in his statement, so the OP could double check.

Nothing ventured...

Not all tyres have serial numbers often only batch numbers.

Unless there is a serial number or the police marked it the op has just gone and got a legal tyre and can't prove otherwise.

If the police measured it wrong why didn't the tyre fitter tell him. The OP must have told him after all the joined up to tell us.

mrbadexample

DUTR wrote: »

It is the point though, who cares whether it is legal or not, driving in the wet and snow and ice is highly diminshed,

It isn't the point to this thread. Yes, it's the point for best practise motoring, but this thread is about the possibility of losing a licence due to one illegal tyre. Fair enough, if it was illegal, the OP will have to take his lumps. But first he should ascertain whether or not the officer was correct.

Lum

Repeaters are only required in an NSL zone when the surroundings would imply that it is a lower limit. i.e. there are streetlights that are at most 100 yards apart[1] (or 84 meters in new money) and it is a built up area. In all other situations, repeaters must not be used.

In a 30 zone, repeaters may only be used when the above situation does not apply, i.e. there are no streetlights OR the streetlights are more than 100 yards apart OR it is not a built up area. Otherwise repeaters must not be used.

All other speed limits with the exception of "20 mph zones"*[2] must have repeaters.

[1] I'm aware that there is an additional rule regarding "pavement lights" which have to be closer, but it's not worth bringing it up in this thread, TIA.

[2] a 20 mph zone and a 20 mph limit are different things. Repeaters are required if it's a 20 mph limit but not a designated 20 mph zone.

mrbadexample

Gene_Hunt wrote: »

Not all tyres have serial numbers often only batch numbers.

Well, I'll have to take your word for that; I've never seen a tyre without a serial number but I'm by no means an expert. In any case, if the officer can't identify the tyre, he's a bit short of evidence, isn't he? What's to stop the OP walking into court with a tyre under his arm and saying "yes, Your Worship, this is the tyre that was fitted and I've had it confirmed as being legal". Enough to introduce reasonable doubt? Almost certainly, unless the officer can prove it wasn't the tyre fitted.

DUTR

mrbadexample wrote: »

It isn't the point to this thread. Yes, it's the point for best practise motoring, but this thread is about the possibility of losing a licence due to one illegal tyre. Fair enough, if it was illegal, the OP will have to take his lumps. But first he should ascertain whether or not the officer was correct.

Fair enough I see your point, although I disagree that he is losing his licence to a bald tyre, the points prior to that were not for the same offence, but from how the OP describes, it not if he will ever get a ban, but when he will get a ban, as it seems if it were not the tyre then he would get caught for something else eventually

Gene_Hunt_2

DUTR wrote: »

Fair enough I see your point, although I disagree that he is losing his licence to a bald tyre, the points prior to that were not for the same offence, but from how the OP describes, it not if he will ever get a ban, but when he will get a ban, as it seems if it were not the tyre then he would get caught for something else eventually

Straw and camels back mate.

Similar offences don't matter 12 points= 6 month ban.

Lum

mrbadexample wrote: »

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Given that the original tyre has been disposed of, you are basically advocating perjury here. You might want to edit that.

mrbadexample

DUTR wrote: »

Fair enough I see your point, although I disagree that he is losing his licence to a bald tyre, the points prior to that were not for the same offence, but from how the OP describes, it not if he will ever get a ban, but when he will get a ban, as it seems if it were not the tyre then he would get caught for something else eventually

Agreed, the tyre is just the last straw, so to speak. He might get away without a ban if he's really lucky, but I'm willing to bet he'll be a damn sight more careful in future.