Ford diesels dont like sainsburys

spanner16

newfoundglory wrote: »

Its got absolutely nothing to do with the basic petrol or diesel. Its pretty clear that everyone is supplied by the same refineries. Its about the additives and lubricants which are put into the basic fuel, depending on who the customer is and where its going.

Look by basic i mean the standard fuel that you buy from the filling station as in any filling station, the additives that are put in are the same for the standard grades, the only extra additives that are put in are to give you the enhanced grades such as ultra, v-power etc, The refinery puts the same additives in to meet the basic spec which is what's supplied as a basic grade, the other additives are put in at the loading rack and these are only added to give you the performance grades

olly300

davidjwest wrote: »

I'll happily do this if you can give a more specific date.

Unfortunately can't as the Shells around me started having Fuel Save Pumps at different times in summer.

Oddly near me the Esso Service stations have Tesco Expresses apart from one, and the actual only Tescos Service Station is as expensive as the Essos or more expensive then them. Luckily my Ford Focus Diesel seems to hate Esso fuel particularly as they are all including Tescos more expensive then the other garages.

Paradigm

Surely if a diesel engine won't run on the basic British standard diesel fuel then something has gone wrong somewhere?

I would hope that the engine manufacturers are aware of the minimum standard for fuel in this country & should make engines to suit, if they don't why not?

Or are the supermarkets selling lower grade fuel that doesn't meet BS?

Rossy.

Paradigm wrote: »

Surely if a diesel engine won't run on the basic British standard diesel fuel then something has gone wrong somewhere?

I would hope that the engine manufacturers are aware of the minimum standard for fuel in this country & should make engines to suit, if they don't why not?

Or are the supermarkets selling lower grade fuel that doesn't meet BS?

Agreed

It's just a Ford thing

People think that just because they drive the same rods day in day out, that gives them an argument to debate MPG figures and "prove supermarket fuel is carp" :rotfl:

I'd love my journey to be the same everyday - Sadly it isn't

All supermarket fuel conforms to BS

It's these miracle additives that are doing the magic ya know :cool:

peediedj

i mainly fill my ford deiesel up at tesco,s but sometime when iam stuck use the local esso and never had any problems

Rossy.

peediedj wrote: »

i mainly fill my ford deiesel up at tesco,s but sometime when iam stuck use the local esso and never had any problems

Have you noticed an increase in fuel consumption using Tesco fuel?

Bet you haven't

bigjl

My Mondeo runs on Tesco fuel, just doesn't run aswell as it does on proper branded stuff.

It isn't my fault if you can't tell when your car lacks a bit of power, I suppose some of us have a bit more feel for what their car is up to than others.

Everybody talks about Mondeos having fragile injection systems , perhaps they are just a bit more sensitive to cheaper brands, and if somebody thinks all petrol and diesel is the same can anybody explain why the petrol contamination only affected supermarkets, surely if it was all the same then it would have affected Esso, Shell and BP in the areas near to where the Supermarkets had the problem.

Or are you infering that somebody at Esso, BP or Shell sabotaged the tanker after it delivered the same fuel to the supermarkets.

The next thing we will be hearing is that a cheap cut of meat is exactly the same as an expensive cut of meat, Tesco trainers are in fact the exact same as Reebok and that a £50k Merc is just a Kia in a bodykit.

Remember that BS is the minimum standard, and that some manufacturers actually chose to exceed these standards, I personally feel that the Supermarkets will just try ans meet the minimum but the Branded suppliers will actually give a better product.

I bet all these same people that think it is all the same think that Tescos cereal is actually made by Kelloggs, well even if you can't tell the difference they aren't the same either and no matter what urban myth you have read they never where.

You are happy to continue to use an inferior product as after all what do BP, Esso and Shell know about fuel manufacturing that the supermarkets don't already know.

No, wait I bet you all think that a supermarkets own brand oil is in fact just a rebranded Mobil 1, after all when you put it in the engine there is no difference, is there.


Everybody that disagrees really is wasting their time on this, my opinion is from personal experience not ill informed internet rumours.

I will keep my opinion, regardless of what people say, it isn't my fault that some can't tell any difference. Everybody has different skill sets in life, one of my skill sets is driving, always had a feel for it since I did Autocross when I was a kid.

Everybody thinks every car of the same spec drives exactly the same, but they don't, there are always slight differences, just some can't feel any difference.

When a lot of the folk on these forums where studying I was racing cars, we all have a specific thing that we have a knack for, what annoys is that those that don't have this knack don't have the good grace to realise when they don't.

There are lots of things that many of the commenters on this thread are better than I am, and no matter how hard I try I will never be as good as they are at these things, I have the good grace to accept these more knowledgable views, why is that some, men in particular, are so happy to continue on arguing when they should be defering to others, if for example Ben Collins "The Stig" was to comment on this thread (under an anonymous ID) what is the bet that all those disagreeing would in fact disagree with him.

So how many people think that they know about driving better than The Stig, I don't as he quite simply has many more years racing experience than I will ever have, and I know a few people that know him personally, as they provided medical back up on Top Gear, in fact I knew who he was 5 years ago, and he is a really skilled driver and all round decent chap by all accounts, but never mind there are apparently plenty on here that can say honestly they know much better than him and so will be a good replacement, well right up till the point they find out they can't tell the difference between a Bugatti and a Fiesta in a back to back test. Which must mean they are the same, as after all they couldn't tell the difference.

peediedj

Rossy. wrote: »

Have you noticed an increase in fuel consumption using Tesco fuel?

Bet you haven't

to be truthful i have noticed a big increase yes......i know the reason why also

Paradigm

bigjl wrote: »

Remember that BS is the minimum standard, and that some manufacturers actually chose to exceed these standards, I personally feel that the Supermarkets will just try ans meet the minimum but the Branded suppliers will actually give a better product.

So, when we get get rid of all the [EMAIL="b@llox"]b@llox[/EMAIL] about kellogs, meat & whatever else you chose to throw in... it comes down to the fact that Ford (bless 'em) decided to make an engine not fit for purpose I.E it doesn't run properly on British standard diesel??

I'm astonished that a major car manufacturer would be so lax!

netlang

pwllbwdr wrote: »

I bet Ford don't recommend BP on their American market cars...

They do on my yank tank. It's a petrol though