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  • polomint_2
    polomint_2 Posts: 372 Forumite
    Thanks for all your above input. At the moment she is not working but at collage, it was a two year course which finishes in june. Since being at collage #i have supported her and have not taken anymoney from her at all. she has recently got a weekend job and i havent asked for a small donation as she is trying to run a car now (which i just brought her with some compensation i had from an accident).

    We got to talking the other night about when she starts earning what i might expect. I tried to go trough with her all that has to go out..

    including £690 a month rent! :eek:
    council tax
    water rates
    tv license
    gas
    electric
    internet
    phone
    shopping etc

    her reply was well you would have to pay most of the yourself anyway if i wasnt here!

    My relatively new partner and i hope to buy a house in the next year (fed up of the LL getting our money) when he sells his house he will get half of the amount to go towards it. (She will of couse come to, already saying she wants the biggest bedroom...lol)

    I was trying to get an idea to be fore armed, with what i might expexct especially as she has got very used to me paying everything.

    All your opinions are very welcome. Cheers,
    Happiness is not having what you want...but wanting what you have!!!
  • fitzmum
    fitzmum Posts: 229 Forumite
    I have a younger brother that still lives with my Mum and Dad and he's 31 :eek:

    He earns £1600 a month and gives my parents £160 grudgingly.

    For that he gets all his food (special high protein diet as he's a sportsman), a daily packed lunch, special drinks, all utilities including broadband, sky etc, a comfortable, clean room with a double bed in which he is allowed to entertain etc ;) all his washing, ironing, help from Dad to sort his car insurance, sort out bills etc. He can't do anything without asking 'daddy' how to do it!!

    In reality at 31 he can't stand on his own two feet. My dad has to help him with everything.

    I don't think my parents have done him any favours by allowing him to carry on like this - he has £15k in the bank with no intention of getting a house as he feels that it would leave him with too little to spend on socialising, holidays, clothing, fast cars etc. Even if he did get a place he wouldnt have the first clue how to sort anything out by himself and would need one of us along to hold his hand. It sickens me. I left home at 17 and HAD to stand on my own two feet.

    When I try to explain that by even renting a place he will learn to budget and understand the value of money then he thinks I'm being ridiculuos and that he would be wasting his money renting!!

    Parents, please, take it from me - your not doing your little darlings any favours by babying them. They'll become too comfy where they are and they'll NEVER leave - take it from me.
  • Timmne
    Timmne Posts: 2,555 Forumite
    fitzmum wrote: »
    Parents, please, take it from me - your not doing your little darlings any favours by babying them. They'll become too comfy where they are and they'll NEVER leave - take it from me.

    ABSOLUTELY!!

    Parents love their little cherubs to the point the kids become little more than lambs when they're supposed to be old enough to be independent!

    I don't believe people who are in their early 20s and reckon they can't afford to move out "because of house prices" etc; they're just to bone idle to bother trying! It's too easy for the parents to subsidise and as fitzmum says, the kids wouldn't want to cut down their nice cushy lifestyle...

    If I were living at home now I could quite easily manage with 1/4 to 1/3 of my salary to buy the extras in life, the rest could be rent etc because it is now I have my own place!
  • tsstss7
    tsstss7 Posts: 1,255 Forumite
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    polomint wrote: »
    Thanks for all your above input. At the moment she is not working but at collage, it was a two year course which finishes in june. Since being at collage #i have supported her and have not taken anymoney from her at all. she has recently got a weekend job and i havent asked for a small donation as she is trying to run a car now (which i just brought her with some compensation i had from an accident).

    We got to talking the other night about when she starts earning what i might expect. I tried to go trough with her all that has to go out..

    including £690 a month rent! :eek:
    council tax
    water rates
    tv license
    gas
    electric
    internet
    phone
    shopping etc

    her reply was well you would have to pay most of the yourself anyway if i wasnt here!
    Not sure I agree with your daughters sentiment about how you would have these costs anyway tbh but even if you do take this into account she should still be paying a third of the gas/electricity/telephone/food/household consumables bills as her presence in your house DOES increase these costs.

    In my house this THIRD would be

    gas - £4+
    electricity -£20+
    telephone - £5+
    food - £90+
    household consumables - £10ish
    wear and tear/replacement stuff (eg new fish slice/ egg timer etc more people = greater rate of wear and tear as well as more stuff broken generally) - £10ish

    So she would be expected to pay about £140/mth here just to cover what she would cost me to occupy the house never mind a contribution to rent ct etc!!! (and I'm willing to bet there are costs I've not even thought about that should be added to the above!)

    So unless you really can afford /want to subside your dd don't feel guilty at charging her a monthly rent of £150 plus - she'd be paying a heck of a lot more in the real world!:rolleyes:
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  • affordmylife
    affordmylife Posts: 1,224 Forumite
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    i asked my son for £20 a week when he started work at 17. he paid for 3 weeks and then moved out!

    into a flat with two friends that he pays £60 a week for.

    he is totally broke but happy and having a great time.

    i dont think he could bear to give me his hard earned cash. he thought it should be free.

    now he is paying for the privilidge of doing all his own cooking washing etc and i say good luck to him.

    i love him to bits and would do anything for him but im delighted he is able to stand on his own two feet - i feel i have done a good job growing an independant young adult.
  • Lynxette
    Lynxette Posts: 147 Forumite
    OH and I get a fab deal living at home! (And people wonder why we aren't looking for our own place?!) We each pay £30 a week for food and housekeeping (Cleaning clothes, and cleaning room!). However, we also pay for the households phone (£45/month) and Sky+, and we also have to pay for anything else that we specifically want.

    I bring home approx £300 a month and OH brings about £1,500

    (Forgot to add; I am 21 and OH is 19)
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  • robpw2
    robpw2 Posts: 14,044 Forumite
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    i think 200 maximum tatsa really cheap


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  • arthur_dent_2
    arthur_dent_2 Posts: 1,913 Forumite
    3plus1 wrote: »
    I thought the whole point of staying at home with your parents was to pay only a token rent and save up money for a deposit? :confused:

    If my parents had charged me market value rent as soon as I started earning, I would have left home a lot sooner!

    A lot of people (presumably parents) have commented that working children would have to pay £X if they had their own place, so they should pay £X in rent to their parents. I'm sorry, but no one I've ever met lives with their parents out of choice. They live with their parents because they can't afford to live anywhere else. If you want to charge them a market rent, you may as well kick them out. They'd be spending the same amount of money, but at least they'd have their independence.

    Don't get me wrong; I love my parents dearly. But I would be horrified to have to pay them the same amount of rent I pay currently for my own flat and then live with them. They may have a nicer house, but I had to live 'by their rules' in it. I'm an adult and I think I'm bloody old enough to be able to decide what the rules where I live should be. That's why I'm paying all of this extra money for my own place - it's for the freedom.

    Those of you proposing your kids should pay market rent - how many of you don't shout at your children when they don't make the bed, leave their clothes on the floor, don't do their washing straight away, etc.? I'm not saying I live in a pig sty, but to be honest, I like having the freedom to live that way should I one day feel like it. ;)


    Fair enough, maybe not market rent but then I would like to see a place where you can have a room and all bills and security for £50 a week.
    Loving the dtd thread. x
  • suzysue_2
    suzysue_2 Posts: 638 Forumite
    My son (20) gives me just 10% of his income but we insisted he saves 25%.

    He is also paying back a loan (bank of mum and dad) for his car, a further 10% of his wages.

    He understands how much it costs to live in the real world but I'm afraid if we didn't budget for him he probably wouldn't.
  • mshappy
    mshappy Posts: 806 Forumite
    I'm 18 and still live at home with my parents.I pay £120 a month as does my brother and sister.I do my own washing and cooking.I take home between £400 and £600 a month.
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