Divorcee remarrying in Catholic church?

PolishBigSpender

zaksmum wrote: »

No, it was a church wedding but in a Church of England church.

I can't believe the stance of the Catholic church on this. What if they have kids? Will the child be allowed to be brought up as a Catholic and baptised as such?

Oh, then you need to ask the priest, I don't know the law in this case.

Obviously the Catholic Church sees a vow said in front of the God as valid for life, what's wrong with that?

The children can be baptised and brought up Catholics, no problem with that.

kegg_2

I dont think you will be able to marry in a catholic church if you were perviousy married in a church of england.
Nor do i think you would be able to annul the first marriage as my understanding of annulment by the catholic church is only in the case on baptised catholics at the time of the marriage who married in another church without the permission of the catholic church. In this case the church would view the first marriage as invalid but a non catholic wouldn't need that permission and so the marriage would be valid in cannon law.

POPPYOSCAR

There is only one way to get a definitive answer on this.

Make an appointment to see the local priest and discuss this with him.

pinksleepybear

zaksmum wrote: »

Their first marriage was in a C of E church. The husband was a loser who was carrying on with other women behind his new wife's back within weeks of marrying. She divorced him for adultery.

I think there is a case for annulment here if it is argued that the husband never intended to be faithful, therefore lied when he made his vows.

Gloomendoom

POPPYOSCAR wrote: »

There is only one way to get a definitive answer on this.

Make an appointment to see the local priest and discuss this with him.

Yup. That is exactly what I did. That is what he is there for. However, if you want meaningful advice, you need to lay all your cards on the table. That way no skeletons will pop out of the cupboard and ruin things further down the line.

zaksmum

coolcait wrote: »

I am equally gobsmacked.

If your original question was genuine, then gloomendoom's link gives a very clear and comprehensive answer (but I'd still recommend that the bride-to-be speaks to the local Catholic parish priest to find out what her personal situation is).

You may not like the religious standpoint, but that doesn't excuse the way you misrepresented the post.

If you have some kind of difficulty with the bride-to-be marrying a Catholic, or converting to Catholicism, then speak to her.

As for annulment - yes it can happen, and yes it can be long-winded. However, it's not always about blaming the other person in the marriage (although human nature usually makes it that way - just like civil divorces).

But no one is obliged to sign anything unless they actually started the process.

Actually, coolcait, you may want to llok at gloomendoom's link again. At the bottom of her link is a further link to the Catholic marriage Centre. This has a Q&A section. One of the questions is similar to that of my friend. The man in this case wants to marry his girlfriend but she's divorced though he's never married.

The answer states that as the church would not recognise a divorce, the girlfriend is still married and therefore the man would be entering into an adulterous relationship. This involves deception and is a form of theft, it goes on to say.

It adds that the adulter is a more grievous offender than the thief (!!!)., and that while God will forgive any sin, you must resolve not to do it again.

This means you must cease to live adulterously.

It finishes by exhorting the man to pray for clarity to see this situation as it really is.

THAT'S why I was gobsmacked!!

kegg_2

pinksleepybear wrote: »

I think there is a case for annulment here if it is argued that the husband never intended to be faithful, therefore lied when he made his vows.

I dont think that would wash with cannon law unless he was having the affair at the time he entered into the marriage.

sueeve

I think it's to do with intention at the time of marriage. After a bit of googling I discover that it was Peter PB, Camilla's ex husband who was granted an annulment. He remarried earlier than the royals.

kegg_2

sueeve wrote: »

I think it's to do with intention at the time of marriage. After a bit of googling I discover that it was Peter PB, Camilla's ex husband who was granted an annulment. He remarried earlier than the royals.

Your googles broke as camilla's ex hubbie is Andrew:D

Andrew divorced from camilla in 1995 and married Rosemary Pitman his long time lover ina a civil cermony a year later.

The only peter i can think of in this saga is peter shand kid the step father of Camilla who is another divorcee.

Newly_retired

There are statutory fees for weddings in most churches. I don't know about Catholic ones, but definitely in C of E, Methodist etc. The vicar/minister may be able to waive some but not all. Some are payable for his services as registrar, some as priest. Banns certificates have to be paid for. Other fees may be levied by the church eg for heat and light, choir, organ, verger etc. It is rare for these to be waived except for regular church members. Most people are happy to pay these costs- cheaper than many civil ceremonies.