Divorcee remarrying in Catholic church?

ab7167

A friend of mine was asked for an anullement by her ex husband as he wanted to remarry in a Catholic church (he was the Catholic, she never was). She wrote back and said "no problem, but if we were never married I'll have the £25k I gave you in the divorce settlement back please. Cleared funds and I'll sign the paper". She never heard from him again...

Gingham_Ribbon

tessie_bear wrote: »

annulling a marriage is a long winded carry on...my friend had a very unpleasant report written about her character as her ex wanted to get married in church

I had never heard of this sort of thing.

Absolutely disgusting.

How can a sacrament be 'annulled'?

I'm genuinely shocked by some of the posts on this thread.

Amara

ab7167 wrote: »

A friend of mine was asked for an anullement by her ex husband as he wanted to remarry in a Catholic church (he was the Catholic, she never was). She wrote back and said "no problem, but if we were never married I'll have the £25k I gave you in the divorce settlement back please. Cleared funds and I'll sign the paper". She never heard from him again...

He,he, I can understand her point. However, if he'd really wanted an annulment,he could carried on. Annulment is in a way similar
to divorce, I mean ,even in one part disagrees, other one can provide an important reasons and divorce can be proceed without other side consent.In annulments similar. I understand,he wanted to avoid hassle and with her cooperation it would be easier.

zaksmum

Gingham_Ribbon wrote: »

I had never heard of this sort of thing.

Absolutely disgusting.

How can a sacrament be 'annulled'?

I'm genuinely shocked by some of the posts on this thread.

You're not kidding. Shocked is not the word. You have a girl in her 20s who was emotionally destroyed by a lying, cheating scumbag of a husband...divorced him and then the church turns it's back on HER!!!

From what I've read here it looks very much like she won't be able to marry in a Catholic church and I just think that's disgraceful.

The link given by gloomendoom was totally unbelievable. Part of it states that a divorcee remarrying would be adulterous, a thief and a liar!! And that God will not forgive the sin of adultery unless there's determination never to do it again - therefore this could not be the case as there would be the intention to continue the adultery by marrying!!!

I'm just gobsmacked.

Sparkles79

There are many reaons for a catholic annulment, your friends daughter really needs to speak to the tribunals office.

I am not catholic, neither was my exhusband, so according to a previous post my marriage was valid, yet I have a annulment.

The tribunals office will be helpful and not at all scary, they will give her information over the phone and in my case I had to fill in a form online and send it back.

There is no harm in just phoning them up for advice.....

floss2

Gingham_Ribbon wrote: »

...........How can a sacrament be 'annulled'?.....

Speaking as a rather lapsed Catholic whose 1st marriage was in a Catholic church, it is all down to the Vatican's interpretation of their history - I think (but may be wrong) that annulment was brought in for Henry VIII's benefit. Basically it is a decision that states that the marriage was not valid for one of several reasons, one of which is one party commits adultery

ab7167

Amara wrote: »

He,he, I can understand her point. However, if he'd really wanted an annulment,he could carried on. Annulment is in a way similar
to divorce, I mean ,even in one part disagrees, other one can provide an important reasons and divorce can be proceed without other side consent.In annulments similar. I understand,he wanted to avoid hassle and with her cooperation it would be easier.

Yes, I think he also said that he could proceed without her signing but thought she wouldn't want her name being blackened as he was planning on trying to say she wasn't mentally competent to marry or had been sleeping around. She, unfortunately for him, thought the whole thing was highly amusing and couldn't give a rat's whotsits about anything he said - she's a great lady and a special friend of mine! I can see how it must be horribly distressing for people to go through, which I can't understand from a church. But there you go.

lazer

floss2 wrote: »

Speaking as a rather lapsed Catholic whose 1st marriage was in a Catholic church, it is all down to the Vatican's interpretation of their history - I think (but may be wrong) that annulment was brought in for Henry VIII's benefit. Basically it is a decision that states that the marriage was not valid for one of several reasons, one of which is one party commits adultery

Adultery is not grounds for annulment, an annulment is basically declarig a marriage invalid from the outset and can only be granted if their is a valid reason, eg: One party was engaged to someone else or there was something else major that was not divulged prior to the marriage

Savvy_Sue

lazer wrote: »

Adultery is not grounds for annulment, an annulment is basically declarig a marriage invalid from the outset and can only be granted if their is a valid reason, eg: One party was engaged to someone else or there was something else major that was not divulged prior to the marriage

Or, as in Henry VIII's time, that he shouldn't have married her in the first place because she was his brother's widow, so it was incest. Or something.

sueeve

I believe that I am right in saying that Camilla P B's marriage was annulled, (husband catholic), on the grounds that the relationship she had with a certain well known gentleman was not ceased at the time of her marriage, and therefore her vows were not honestly taken. It is that the first marriage would not have taken place if the truth at that time were fully known. Of course, you could be supportive to your soon to be ex. I simply give this as an example (it was the intent at the time of the first marriage which may not have been complete). When it's what is in the head no-one can prove anything absolutely.

As far as the C of E is concerned it is up to the conscience of the priest whether or not s/he agrees to perform the marriage, according to their theological understanding of marriage, but for those who will there are fairly strict guidelines. Some priests ignore the guidelines! But they are good. For example, whether arrangement regarding children of the first marriage are proper and reasonable.