Divorcee remarrying in Catholic church?

POPPYOSCAR

I was raised a catholic but now I do not call myself a catholic as I find the catholic faith(as many others I might add) to be full of hypocrisy.
My cousin had her marriage annulled purely on the status of my aunt and uncle within their parish community.Not what you know but who you know.

Gloomendoom

If you think all these stories are bad, just have a thought for the stress poor old Henry VIII went through just trying to be a good Catholic.

No wonder he formed his own church.

fantasia322

margaretclare wrote: »

What 'mental health issues'? I don't see this.

Unless it's the kind of thinking that used to condemn young women to a lifetime in a mental hospital for having an illegitimate child? Many were only released when the legislation changed in recent years.

Did'nt they used to hide young pregnant woman (regardless even if they were raped) in The Magdalene Launderies. The last one of these did'nt shut till 1996 and thats when a lot of the horrors came to light.

zaksmum

coolcait wrote: »

You've told us that the bride-to-be's not Catholic. But she married in a christian church, taking christian vows, within the christian belief, stating that she bound herself to her husband, in the eyes of God (and man), for better or worse, till death did them part.

What does her own church have to say about divorce and remarriage in the church?

What are her views (not yours) on seeking an annulment?

If she gets her previous marriage annulled - which is a possibility you don't really seem to have taken into account - then she can get married in the Catholic church.

Some people spend more than two years preparing for a completely secular marriage, because that's the right marriage for them. I don't see anything wrong with that approach (as long as they realise that's it's about 'marriage' and not 'the wedding')

So I don't understand why there would be a problem with the timescales of trying to get an annulment (as long as it's about 'marriage' and not 'the wedding').

Wouldn't it be worth the effort of the annulment to know that the previous marriage to the 'cheating husband' who 'destroyed' her had been officially declared 'nullified'?

I'm really not sure where this thread is going. You started off asking if the bride-to-be could be married in the Catholic church. The best answer you can get is 'maybe, but she has to speak to the Catholic church'. Because it depends on the specific details of her own beliefs, her previous husband's beliefs and where the previous marriage took place.

You obviously can't post those specific details on here. Which means that no one on here can give advice about the bride-to-be's specific situation.

Have you told the bride-to-be about the advice you've been given? Advice which could help her decide what she wants to do. Advice which could help her process an annulment, if that's what she wants to go for.

I totally sympathise with the situation of a woman who toook marriage vows before the God she believed in; then found she had been betrayed by the man she thought she would be with for life; but was lucky enough to find the man she really wanted to be with for life; and was prepared to do what was necessary to allow her to take vows for life before the God they both believed in.

In just sorry that she's not here to see the advice that's been given, on a purely practical basis, without any comment on any church's stance.

Could you confirm that you've passed on the advice that's been given?

If you're just here for a debate about religion, marriages etc, then the Arms is really the right forum for that.

I really don't think there's a chance of annulment and yes, I have shown the advice here to the girl. She was with her ex 7 years and she lost his baby too, so no chance on the refusal to have children thing. She knew what she was doing when she married him so that's out too. She hopes never to have to contact him again so really annulment isn't going to happen.

She will obviously have to accept that the remarriage in a Catholic church isn't either.

zaksmum

fantasia322 wrote: »

Did'nt they used to hide young pregnant woman (regardless even if they were raped) in The Magdalene Launderies. The last one of these did'nt shut till 1996 and thats when a lot of the horrors came to light.

Yes they did. And there are even worse horrors, as we are all aware, for which the church has since apologised for.

Quick to ostracise anyone who's had the temerity to get divorced from an adulterous husband though.

PolishBigSpender

zaksmum wrote: »

She will obviously have to accept that the remarriage in a Catholic church isn't either.

Because in the eyes of the Church she's still married. What is so hard to understand here?

margaretclare

fantasia322 wrote: »

Did'nt they used to hide young pregnant woman (regardless even if they were raped) in The Magdalene Laundries. The last one of these did'nt shut till 1996 and thats when a lot of the horrors came to light.

So far as I am aware this was in Ireland, a Catholic country, and not in England. I do know that, with the coming of the Mental Health Acts and 'Care in the Community', many women were released after 40 years or so in the old mental hospitals. I read about them at the time. Of course, having lived in a totally enclosed environment - the big old mental hospitals had their own farms, gardens, laundries, you name it - they were completely institutionalised and not equipped to live in the modern world, even though they had never been 'insane' as such.

zaksmum

PolishBigSpender wrote: »

Because in the eyes of the Church she's still married. What is so hard to understand here?

Er...nothing actually. I just said she will have to accept she can't remarry in the Catholic church, didn't I?

What's so hard to understand about that?

zaksmum

margaretclare wrote: »

So far as I am aware this was in Ireland, a Catholic country, and not in England. I do know that, with the coming of the Mental Health Acts and 'Care in the Community', many women were released after 40 years or so in the old mental hospitals. I read about them at the time. Of course, having lived in a totally enclosed environment - the big old mental hospitals had their own farms, gardens, laundries, you name it - they were completely institutionalised and not equipped to live in the modern world, even though they had never been 'insane' as such.

But some aspects of child abuse did happen in England.

PolishBigSpender

tiff wrote: »

Plans_all_plans wrote: »

When did it become more important to marry in church than marrying the right person?

Actually, that's one of the reasons I would not date a divorced person. Nor I would be with a person who refuses to marry in the Church. Can't be right person if he can't give me that...