If you really want a pay rise do this...

geordie_joe

mumbles_one wrote: »

the benefit is in comparison to another person in your company on the same pay and conditions as you.
you work for 10 months and then get 1 month holiday

Then work for 1 month to pay back what they took in advance.

they work for 11 months and then get 1 month holiday

Then the new holiday year starts and they start accruing holidays again.

remember the birthday example ??? which do you prefer ??? a birthday every 11 months or a birthday every 12 months. Happy Birthday

I love this thread, I fell for this in 1975 when I started my first job.

mumbles_one

geordie_joe wrote: »

Not in any company I have ever worked for, or known anyone else work for. They have all had a fixed holiday year, usually 1st April to 31st March.

If you join part way through the year then you will only accrue part of the years holidays, and they will only "advance" you part of the years holiday.

And when it gets to the end of the year some won't let you carry over holidays, others will.

I suspect what has happened is you have read, and fallen for a spoof on the internet and now are trying to be clever by claiming you have done it.

It one of the "scams" that sound as if it will work, until you look at it closely. In this case it sounds as if it will work, until you remember the holiday year and the fact that HR keep track of how many holidays you are entitled to and how many you have taken.

So taking your holidays two months earlier each year may sound clever, until you realise most people actually do take their holidays before they have "earned" all of them. And all that happens is they work after the holidays but don't accrue and more until they have "paid off" what they had in advance.

you accused me of getting this system from some spoof internet scam and now you say "it happened to you" back in the 1970s . you can't have it both ways. Internet not available back then.
I repeat ---
which is better a birthday every 12 months or a birthday every 11 months ?????

geordie_joe

mumbles_one wrote: »

Please GeordieJoe which is better

a birthday every 12 months or a birthday every 11 months ?????

Depends on how old you want to be.

But you are missing the point. You are only entitled to one birthday per year, so if you keep having them a month earlier it means you have to go an extra month before you reach the next year and are entitled to another one.

At the end of every year you will be one year older, you will never get two years older in the same year.

All you are doing is changing from having a birthday at the end of the year, to having having one at the beginning of the year.

In other words, do you eat your birthday cake in Jan or save it for Dec?

Only children eat it in Jan, adults have learned to save their cakes for another day.

mumbles_one

which is better
a birthday every 12 months or a birthday every 11 months ???

geordie_joe

mumbles_one wrote: »

you accused me of getting this system from some spoof internet scam and now you say "it happened to you" back in the 1970s . you can't have it both ways. Internet not available back then.

How childish can you get?

The Magna Carter was written in 1215, yet you read the words of it on the internet, and the internet wasn't around in 1215.

JFK was shot long before the internet was around, yet you can see film of him being shot on the internet.

It's an old trick you fell for, and proved that there's a new fool born every minute.

Only children think the internet invents everything. Us adults know many things on the internet were around in "real life" long before the internet.

mumbles_one

funny you never mentioned all this about you falling for this when the thread started .
please Joe which gets a better return on birthdays

a birthday every 12 months or a birthday every 11 months????

mumbles_one

If this was a scam then I expect someone to point out where the scam is????????????

crafty*kate

I haven't laughed this much since I watched Ann Widdecombe dance the samba.

You can't make a year shorter than it is. And my work won't let me take 4 weeks off in a row so what am I supposed to do anyway?!

geordie_joe

mumbles_one wrote: »

which is better
a birthday every 12 months or a birthday every 11 months ???

A birthday every 12 months.

After 70 years, if you have a birthday every 12 months you will be 70 years old.

After 70 years, if you have a birthday every 11 months you will be 76 years old.

Which would you rather be 70 or 76 years old?

As I have said, you are a child, you think more birthdays mean more cake and presents. Us adults know more birthdays mean we are getting older and close to the grave.

We stopped seeing the cakes and presents long before you were born.

eyeinthesky

mumbles_one wrote: »

I think Eyeinthesky works under the same conditions I did. The holidays accrue per month and if you have accrued the days you can take them when you like. So Eyeinthesky will now start booking holidays earlier every year . Even if you only do it by one week per year on every holiday you will gain.The bigger the reduction you can get and still accrue enough holidays to cover the month the better.

Everyone accrues holiday in the same way. I believe this is by statute, you cannot be paid less holiday than 28 days per year, although this can include bank holidays. It is a legal requirement to be paid those holidays pro rata, so if you work 6 months for a company they are obliged to pay you half of your annual entitlement. I will certainly not be changing the way I take my holidays, because I will still only get 25 days plus bank holidays, regardless of when I take them. I could take all my holiday in February/March, which is when my company holiday year begins, but I would then have to work until the following February before I would have any holiday to take. Regardless of how and when my holiday is taken, it still only amounts to 25 days per year plus bank holidays, so, THERE IS NO GAIN!