If you really want a pay rise do this...

alibongo42

I now get why you cannot understand why noone else can understand your point.

I also understand why your point hasn't made much sense to the readers of this thread.

Most of us do not have holidays that work in that way, and have a fixed holiday year instead. (as explained by Geordie Joe and others). That is why your system would not work for most of us, and why we had no idea where you were coming from!

mumbles_one

The first company I worked for had a fixed holiday period. They shut the factory down same time every year . After that every other company counted your entitlement on a monthly basis so a new employee would only be able to take 2.2 days for every month in the company. So after 10 months there was no problem booking 22 days. All the companies I worked for were very happy to have enough prior notice to get a "contractor" in to cover your work.

alibongo42

By "fixed holiday", I don't mean a set factory shut down period.

I mean every employee operates a standard annual leave period eg. every employee can take 20 days between 1st April and 31st March. The annual leave year does not start on the day you start with the company.

1. No need to build up enough accrued days to take them in any given year.
2. If you take too many in one year and then leave having taken too many, the value of the excess days will be deducted from your final pay
3. Holidays reset to 20 on the 1st April every year, hence why the 10 month cycle just won't work!!!!!!!!!!!

eyeinthesky

This thread has made me chuckle :rotfl:. All you are doing is taking the holiday that you have legitimately earned, and are not, in fact, gaining anything from this whatsoever;). Of course HR will not refuse to let you have this holiday, you have earned it, but in the full year you would be entitled to 28 days holiday. This equates to another full weeks holiday, so looking at it from this viewpoint, you could say that you are losing a week each year :rotfl:.

alibongo42

As I wrote my last response, I did wonder how many people were reading this thread having a good laugh!

If it wasn't for the fact I'm supposed to be revising for an exam, and am looking for any distraction I can find, I wouldn't even be bothering!

mumbles_one

so in your case.
join company on 1 april and book 1 month holiday in december
next year work for 10 months and then book 1 months in november
then work december up to end of september (I think you will find that is 10 months) take 1 month
then ................... I think you get the idea and for the next 8 years you will only be working 10 months before you get 1 month holiday . Even if with your inflexible holiday scheme you have to then carry on taking your holidays in April for the rest of your life with that company you will have made a profit for those first 8 years. Don't stay too long with companies as I have said many times before

mumbles_one

eyeinthesky wrote: »

This thread has made me chuckle :rotfl:. All you are doing is taking the holiday that you have legitimately earned, and are not, in fact, gaining anything from this whatsoever;). Of course HR will not refuse to let you have this holiday, you have earned it, but in the full year you would be entitled to 28 days holiday. This equates to another full weeks holiday, so looking at it from this viewpoint, you could say that you are losing a week each year :rotfl:.

not quite right. if we both have one month holiday per year

you take december I take december both of us work 11months between holiday
next year
you take december I take november you work 11 month I work 10 between holidays
next year
you take december I take october you work 11 months I work 10 between holidays

are we there yet?????

crafty*kate

OMG this is the most confusing thing I have ever read!

It doesn't make any difference when I book my holiday....between 1st Jan and 31 Dec I get 25 days holiday. I can use those days at any point in the year. If I leave halfway through the year, but have already used my whole holiday entitlement, then my final pay will be adjusted accordingly. Otherwise it doesn't make any difference.

Besides which, I have never worked for a company who routinely let employees take 4 weeks off at a time.

alibongo42

I am clearly set to fail my Management Accountancy exams on Wednesday, as I just cannot see where the financial profit (as per thread title) is in this scenario.

This suggests to me that I have much to learn, and should get my head back into my books and out of this thread!

eyeinthesky

Oh! I am all there, but it seems that you are not. Take your figure of 10 years, you will get 1 month holiday or 22 days after each 10 months of work, which adds up to 11 holidays of 22 days, or 242 days. I will get 28 days holiday for each 12 month period, which is 280 days paid holiday. Are we there yet?