If you really want a pay rise do this...

redcard

mumbles, do you have a strategy for getting paid an extra hour when the clocks go forward?

eyeinthesky

I can't believe you are still harping on about this! I have taken great pains and a lot of patience to explain it all to you, but it's going in 1 ear and out the other. It's called annual holiday/ leave. This is because you get a set number of days holiday per year. Are you getting it yet? There is no pay rise, no gain, no benefit, and NO STRATEGY!!!!!

There are usually 365 days in a year. Of those, 104 days will be weekend days, or rest days if you normally work weekends and have other days off. Then we have 8 days of bank/public holiday. This leaves 253 work days, but you then need to take away the number of holidays allowed by your employer. If you get 25 days holiday, then you will work 228 days per year.

The bottom line is......... You will work 228 days, you will have 25 days holiday, you will have 104 weekend days/ non working days, and you will get the same wages as everyone else.

I have also explained that if anyone wanted to take all their holidays en-block, then they would never work more than 10.5 months anyway, but you seem to have ignored this.

geordie_joe

mumbles_one wrote: »

OK Joe and redcard we have had your opinions so lets see how others see it.

We've seen how others see it, they all think you are wrong. Not one person in here has said your scheme is a good idea, why can't you see that.

geordie_joe

eyeinthesky wrote: »

I can't believe you are still harping on about this! I have taken great pains and a lot of patience to explain it all to you, but it's going in 1 ear and out the other. It's called annual holiday/ leave. This is because you get a set number of days holiday per year. Are you getting it yet? There is no pay rise, no gain, no benefit, and NO STRATEGY!!!!!

There are usually 365 days in a year. Of those, 104 days will be weekend days, or rest days if you normally work weekends and have other days off. Then we have 8 days of bank/public holiday. This leaves 253 work days, but you then need to take away the number of holidays allowed by your employer. If you get 25 days holiday, then you will work 228 days per year.

The bottom line is......... You will work 228 days, you will have 25 days holiday, you will have 104 weekend days/ non working days, and you will get the same wages as everyone else.

You're wasting your time, it goes in one ear and out the other because there's nothing in between.

Personally I am sick of him and will hit the spam button every time he posts. If others do it too his posts will be deleted and he will go away.

redcard

It's easier to convince Tom Cruise that the evil inter-galactic ruler Xenu did not transport trillions of people to earth and blow them by nuking a bunch of volcanoes.

You're trying to communicate with someone who is obviously mentally ill

geordie_joe

redcard wrote: »

mumbles, do you have a strategy for getting paid an extra hour when the clocks go forward?

You don't need a strategy for that. If you work night shift on a sunday then it's simple, you work till 1 am and the clocks jump forward 1 hour, so you have gained an hours pay without working it.

It works if you don't think about the downside, which is when then clocks go back you work until 2 am and the clock goes back 1 hour, so you you work an extra hour for no pay.

Mumbles theory only works if you only look at the one benefit and never think out all the negative bits. That's why he keeps repeating the one benefit and ignores the many negatives.

If he was an adult he would see that the warm feeling of taking your holidays a month earlier is dwarfed by the negative feeling of not having any holidays left for 11 months.

He's just to young to have learned that !!!!!! happens and you have to take a day off work to deal with it.

And he's never been in the position of going into work thinking "Well that's my holiday over for the year, I only have to work another 11 months before I accrue another holiday"

tomstickland

mumbles_one wrote: »

Lets suppose you only get 1 day per year holiday and you plan to stay with that company for 60 years .
what is the best strategy to take the one day per year???
is it best to take your day on 31/12 every year ???
or is it better to take your day earlier every year???
by about 6 days earlier would be my guess.
What's your guess???

I don't have to guess anything. It doesn't make any difference when he takes the holiday.

Frogletina

Ok - I'm going to look at it differently

Person A, rolling year (the system according to Mumbles)

In this scenario A can work for 10 months and because A accrues 2.5 days holiday per month they can take a holiday of 25 days

A decides to take a holiday every 10 months. After 60 months A has had 6 holidays - a total of 150 days and didn't work for more than 10 months between holidays



Person B - fixed year - gets 2.5 days holiday entitlement per month

This person gets 30 days holiday a year which equals 150 days in 5 years.

Lets say they take holidays of a week in June, another in July - a couple of weeks in August and the rest at Christmas or odd days. This means this person is never more than 5 months away from a holiday and at the end of the fixed year has used up the full entitlement

Person A, if HR allows, can keep taking holidays at 10 months intervals indefinately

However, the entitlement is still the same per year. It just seems to be that person A uses it after accruing enough for a long holiday - and person B can take it either before or after accruing it and any adjustments come at the year end (whether having to use it up or carry some forward)

redcard

geordie_joe wrote: »

You don't need a strategy for that. If you work night shift on a sunday then it's simple, you work till 1 am and the clocks jump forward 1 hour, so you have gained an hours pay without working it.

It works if you don't think about the downside, which is when then clocks go back you work until 2 am and the clock goes back 1 hour, so you you work an extra hour for no pay.

You really didn't need to explain that to me

geordie_joe

redcard wrote: »

You really didn't need to explain that to me

I know that, I replied to your post but it was aimed at mumbles. I didn't mean to imply that there was anything wrong with your brain or logic.