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geordie_joe

mumbles_one wrote: »

Back to the original thread .
Is it better to take your holidays earlier every year or not ???
and if it is a benefit to do so???

It is not better to take your holidays earlier every year and there are no benefits to it.

mumbles_one wrote: »

are there any new opinions out there???

No, there is only one opinion, YOU ARE WRONG

mumbles_one wrote: »

and please joe and redcard go start your own threads if you feel threatened by this one.

We don't feel threatened by you or your thread, your just a troll and we've seen a million of those.

geordie_joe

mumbles_one wrote: »

but you are perfectly entitled to have that flawed opinion .

As you are entitled to have your flawed opinion.

mumbles_one

Its more or less December

Any holidays you have left this year then get them booked before end of December.
Next year book the same number of days that you took this year but 1 week earlier and all your holidays will come round 1 week earlier next year.
The following year try 2 weeks earlier and you will see the benefits. The holy grail is to try and get the total number of months between holidays equal to 10 months. That requires taking all holidays 1 month earlier next year. So unless you took a holiday for the whole of February this year then you can do it next year
what I mean by total number of months between holidays is by counting the days between the end of one holiday and the start of the next for all holidays that year.
for example:
this year if you
took first 2 weeks in July last week in Aug and last week in December
2011 first 2 weeks in June last week in July and last week in November
2012 first 2 weeks in May last week in June last week in October

For these years you will have scored a perfect 10 by getting all your holidays in the most efficient strategy. If you can book your holidays in a 4 week block it is easier (check your companies holiday conditions)
if you take December this year (Jan->Oct = 10 months)
2011 take November (Dec to Sep =10 months)
2012 take October (Nov ->Aug =10 months)
2013 take September and so on

You might not be able to do this forever unless your company has a rolling holiday year . But every little helps and who knows the company you work for might not be around for ever.
As pointed out by redcard you could just use up your holidays the day after you accrue them. But as I have pointed out this would limit your holidays to long weekends

redcard

mumbles, have you seen the movie Groundhog Day?

I think you should seek some psychological assistance first thing Monday morning.

geordie_joe

mumbles_one wrote: »

Its more or less December

Any holidays you have left this year then get them booked before end of December.
Next year book the same number of days that you took this year but 1 week earlier and all your holidays will come round 1 week earlier next year.
The following year try 2 weeks earlier and you will see the benefits. The holy grail is to try and get the total number of months between holidays equal to 10 months. That requires taking all holidays 1 month earlier next year. So unless you took a holiday for the whole of February this year then you can do it next year
what I mean by total number of months between holidays is by counting the days between the end of one holiday and the start of the next for all holidays that year.
for example:
this year if you
took first 2 weeks in July last week in Aug and last week in December
2011 first 2 weeks in June last week in July and last week in November
2012 first 2 weeks in May last week in June last week in October

For these years you will have scored a perfect 10 by getting all your holidays in the most efficient strategy. If you can book your holidays in a 4 week block it is easier (check your companies holiday conditions)
if you take December this year (Jan->Oct = 10 months)
2011 take November (Dec to Sep =10 months)
2012 take October (Nov ->Aug =10 months)
2013 take September and so on

You might not be able to do this forever unless your company has a rolling holiday year . But every little helps and who knows the company you work for might not be around for ever.
As pointed out by redcard you could just use up your holidays the day after you accrue them. But as I have pointed out this would limit your holidays to long weekends

please resubmit the question in a more concise form

mumbles_one

geordie_joe wrote: »

please resubmit the question in a more concise form

I'm flattered

geordie_joe

OK, I am now convinced mumbles is my ex-wife, there can't be two people in the world who say something stupid then defend it by repeating the same flawed reasoning and completely ignoring the sound reasoning offered.

mumbles_one wrote: »

Its more or less December

Any holidays you have left this year then get them booked before end of December.

I have never worked for a company that had the holiday year go from jan to dec, mine have always gone from 1 april to last day of march, so why book them in dec just to use them up?


Next year book the same number of days that you took this year but 1 week earlier and all your holidays will come round 1 week earlier next year.

And you will have to work one week longer before you start accruing more holidays. Not that it matters, you don't know what accruing means.

The following year try 2 weeks earlier and you will see the benefits.

The benefits are you now work two weeks before accruing a holiday.

The holy grail is to try and get the total number of months between holidays equal to 10 months.

And this means you have to work longer after the holidays before you start accruing any more.


That requires taking all holidays 1 month earlier next year. So unless you took a holiday for the whole of February this year then you can do it next year

And then work the rest of the year not having any holidays.


what I mean by total number of months between holidays is by counting the days between the end of one holiday and the start of the next for all holidays that year.
for example:
this year if you
took first 2 weeks in July last week in Aug and last week in December
2011 first 2 weeks in June last week in July and last week in November
2012 first 2 weeks in May last week in June last week in October

For these years you will have scored a perfect 10 by getting all your holidays in the most efficient strategy.

And left yourself with no holidays to fall back on if you need or want them.

If you can book your holidays in a 4 week block it is easier (check your companies holiday conditions)
if you take December this year (Jan->Oct = 10 months)
2011 take November (Dec to Sep =10 months)
2012 take October (Nov ->Aug =10 months)
2013 take September and so on

You might not be able to do this forever unless your company has a rolling holiday year .

You don't actually know what a rolling holiday year is, as seen in your explanation of it previously.

But every little helps and who knows the company you work for might not be around for ever.

Increasing the length of time you have to work to repay holidays you have taken in advance does not help. If you had ever worked or had responsibilities you would know that


As pointed out by redcard you could just use up your holidays the day after you accrue them. But as I have pointed out this would limit your holidays to long weekends

But you would get them sooner, which is what you are trying to tell us to do.

Now please answer this, why don't you address the issues people raise? You continually re-quote yourself and ignore things people tell you.

You know your idea is rubbish, it means you take your holiday when some system says you should, not when you want or need to take them. Then it leaves you with 11 months of work before you accrue any more holidays.

You can't defend it, all you are doing is repeating the same flawed argument and making yourself look like an idiot.

geordie_joe

mumbles_one wrote: »

I'm flattered

No, your just flat.

mumbles_one

OK Joe and redcard we have had your opinions so lets see how others see it.

mumbles_one

Its more or less December

Any holidays you have left this year then get them booked before end of December.
Next year book the same number of days that you took this year but 1 week earlier and all your holidays will come round 1 week earlier next year.
The following year try 2 weeks earlier and you will see the benefits. The holy grail is to try and get the total number of months between holidays equal to 10 months. That requires taking all holidays 1 month earlier next year. So unless you took a holiday for the whole of February this year then you can do it next year
what I mean by total number of months between holidays is by counting the days between the end of one holiday and the start of the next for all holidays that year.
for example:
this year if you
took first 2 weeks in July last week in Aug and last week in December
2011 first 2 weeks in June last week in July and last week in November
2012 first 2 weeks in May last week in June last week in October

For these years you will have scored a perfect 10 by getting all your holidays in the most efficient strategy. If you can book your holidays in a 4 week block it is easier (check your companies holiday conditions)
if you take December this year (Jan->Oct = 10 months)
2011 take November (Dec to Sep =10 months)
2012 take October (Nov ->Aug =10 months)
2013 take September and so on

You might not be able to do this forever unless your company has a rolling holiday year . But every little helps and who knows the company you work for might not be around for ever.
As pointed out by redcard you could just use up your holidays the day after you accrue them. But as I have pointed out this would limit your holidays to long weekends