If you really want a pay rise do this...

antrobus

Good grief! This thread is still going? OP still hasn't got it? All credit to those who have tried.

toastrack_2

Have read all the posts and have decided the following
1. Was born in 1959 but I am now 65 so please send accrued presents...Cheques payable to C.A.S.H. accepted
2. It is now time to start using my 13mths annual leave accrued over the last 10mths.
3. stop reading moral dilemmas about cats and lamb... this is funnier

mumbles_one

adiwood wrote: »

And if we carry on this pattern...

Year 1 Year 2 Year 3
Month/Year JFMAMJJASOND JFMAMJJASOND JFMAMJJASOND
Person A 000000000001 000000000001 000000000001
Perosn B 000000000001 000000000010 000000000100

Year 4 Year 5 Year 6
Month/Year JFMAMJJASOND JFMAMJJASOND JFMAMJJASOND
Person A 000000000001 000000000001 000000000001
Perosn B 000000001000 000000010000 00000100000

Year 7 Year 8 Year 9
Month/Year JFMAMJJASOND JFMAMJJASOND JFMAMJJASOND
Person A 000000000001 000000000001 000000000001
Perosn B 000001000000 0000010000000 000010000000

Year 10 Year 11 Year 12
Month/Year JFMAMJJASOND JFMAMJJASOND JFMAMJJASOND
Person A 000000000001 000000000001 000000000001
Perosn B 001000000000 010000000000 100000000000

Both people have taken the same leave over 12 years - 12 months.

If both people leave at the end of the 12th month in year 10 Person A can take a month of annual leave before going but Person B i.e you would have to work till the end of year.

What you are suggesting does not work!

lets start in year 1 both accrue 2 days per month so all square
in year 2
person A works 11 months until his next holiday
person B works 10 month until his next holiday
and this goes on until end of year 12 or both leave company
pick any leaving date and count number of accrued days

so in year 12 person A has accrued 12x24 days = 288 minus the 12x22 =264 taken holidays which equals 24 so he leaves with 24 days extra pay for those days he never took or he could leave end of oct

in year 12 person B has accrued same number of days
so he also has another 24 days so he can also take december as holiday and leave with 2 days extra pay for the days he never took

so both employees received exactly the same pay but person B only worked 10 months between holidays while person A always worked 11 months between holidays

for me 12 years working 10 months with 1 month holiday is better than 12 years working 11 months with 1 month holiday

tomstickland

If you have a fixed amount of holiday allocation per year then you can't gain any holiday by moving your holiday forwards a month each year.

tomstickland

mumbles_one wrote: »

In all the companies I have worked for holiday entitlement was accrued on a days per month. The holiday year was relevant to keep count of number of days taken every year was not greater or less than the accrued entitlement . So starting work in january and taking 1 month holiday in november has always been perfectly acceptable and then in the second year there was no problem taking holidays in october. So the period worked between holidays is only 10 months. As I have hinted in other posts because of my skiing holidays I needed to split my holidays into 2 blocks but all I needed to do was change the reduction to a two week period on both holiday blocks. The effect was the same

So in a year you are entitled to, say, 24 days of holiday.
You only use 20 at a time and then 10 months later you use another 20.

You haven't gained anything at all over and above taking the full 24 days per year.

redcard

tomstickland wrote: »

If you have a fixed amount of holiday allocation per year then you can't gain any holiday by moving your holiday forwards a month each year.

WRONG!

mumbles beat the system. A system that every business on the planet uses.

mumbles' revelation is the equivalent of solving P v NP to the power of 10.

tomstickland

mumbles_one wrote: »

This system does not get you more days holiday than you are entitled. It just reduces the number of days you work between holidays which in itself is the same as a pay rise. You can take 1 month 1 week or 1 day just don't take the same days every year. Take the holidays earlier every year.

Your reasoning is flawed.
Your effective pay rise takes no account of how many days are between your holidays.

The ratio is just the number of days you are paid for divided by the number of days you work in a year.

tomstickland

I've found his equation!



=>Your pay = loads more than it used to be

=>You = clever x deluded

redcard

tomstickland wrote: »

I've found his equation!



=>Your pay = loads more than it used to be

=>You = clever x deluded

mumbles did that in Primary 3

geordie_joe

mumbles_one wrote: »

for me 12 years working 10 months with 1 month holiday is better than 12 years working 11 months with 1 month holiday

For gods sake, how thick are kids these days!

You may work 10 months then have a month off, but you still have to work from when you holiday ends until the end of the holiday year not accruing any holidays.

And at the end of 12 years you will have to work 11 months with no holidays and not accruing any.

And at the end of the 12th year you will have worked 12 years and had 12 months holiday.