Benefits shake-up: warning for non-working claimants

Orville

dmg24 wrote: »

But why are those half million jobs not taken? As there are some available, why don't the desperate taking them?

I need a cleaner, if anyone wants a job?

Probably because the wages offered wouldn't cover living expenses.

zaksmum

janninew wrote: »

Parents would still get CB and CTC I think?? At the end of the day if you can't meet the basic needs of your children through being bone idle, then maybe social services will step in, as somebody who knows what will happen if they don't accept a job etc and knows it will affect their children badly clearly isn't fit to have children. I'm sure there won't be many cases as extreme as that though (I hope!)

So really the parents would still have to be given money? And as the benefits level is supposedly pretty much the minimum you need to live on, any CB and CTB would be topped up to that minimum?

Otherwise the human rights lawyers would be cashing in with more legally aided claims than they could handle, costing the taxpayer more than ever.

FTW

woodbine wrote: »

I totally agree with that,threads like this always lead to discussion,and not very helpful discussion at that.

I've noticed that myself. ONW is right on the button about that one.

zaksmum

dmg24 wrote: »

But why are those half million jobs not taken? As there are some available, why don't the desperate taking them?

I need a cleaner, if anyone wants a job?

Why don't you just advertise for a cleaner? If you're paying minimum wage I'm sure you'd have little difficulty finding someone.

zaksmum

frank_begbie wrote: »

Seeing as there is only half a million jobs and at least 5 million jobless, we seem to have a problem here.

If that's true there will be 4.5 million people who absolutely CANNOT get a job no matter how hard they try.

How are they going to convince the authorities they are applying for jobs to avoid having their benefits stopped if there are no jobs left to apply for?

And how many more jobless will join that 5 million when God knows how many are kicked off sickness benefits?

This whole thing is the most unbelievable mess and this government hasn't the slightest idea how to sort it all out.

Oldernotwiser

dmg24 wrote: »

Like getting a job?

Don't be silly - most of them aren't that desperate!

Oldernotwiser

woodbine wrote: »

I totally agree with that,threads like this always lead to discussion,and not very helpful discussion at that.

Threads like this don't just happen to lead to discussion, they are set up for that purpose by MSE staff. From the first post by MSE Guy.

"This is the discussion thread for the following MSE News Story:

"Tough welfare rules will strip the unemployed of handouts for up to three years if they refuse to work..."

We are being encouraged to discuss the issues on this thread.

john539

zaksmum wrote: »

If that's true there will be 4.5 million people who absolutely CANNOT get a job no matter how hard they try.

How are they going to convince the authorities they are applying for jobs to avoid having their benefits stopped if there are no jobs left to apply for?

And how many more jobless will join that 5 million when God knows how many are kicked off sickness benefits?

This whole thing is the most unbelievable mess and this government hasn't the slightest idea how to sort it all out.

There's a long long way to go.

Will MPs, parliament, Iain Duncan Smith still have the interest in a few years time dealing with all the problems as reality bites.

Has anyone asked the DWP & HMRC whether they are capable of delivering a working system ? :eek:

diable

john539 wrote: »

There's a long long way to go.

Will MPs, parliament, Iain Duncan Smith still have the interest in a few years time dealing with all the problems as reality bites.

Has anyone asked the DWP & HMRC whether they are capable of delivering a working system ? :eek:

It just ruffles feathers and gets peoples backs uo.

If people genuinely do not want to work have no intention of ever finding work and will never ever want to work then they should have their benefits removed if thy starve they starve if they have children then tough luck they should starve also as there are 11000 children on the list for adoption.

john539

diable wrote: »

...if thy starve they starve if they have chikdren then tough luck they should starve also as there are 11000 children on the list for adoption.

That's not the society we live in anymore, so it won't happen.

It will just cause bigger more expensive problems elsewhere.