Benefits shake-up: warning for non-working claimants

Orville

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

Despite recent cutbacks, there is more funding for training than there was 10 years ago. Your mistake is trying to do this through the JCP rather than through your local college.

That maybe but there is not as much this year as there was last year. I applied for three courses through two different colleges and they were all cancelled. When i asked the reason it was because of the goverment cutbacks.

Oldernotwiser

Orville wrote: »

That maybe but there is not as much this year as there was last year. I applied for three courses through two different colleges and they were all cancelled. When i asked the reason it was because of the goverment cutbacks.

That is certainly true but the funding that is available when a course does run is far better than it used to be.

50Twuncle

What concerns me is - with the changes in disability status on the cards (ie dropping ESA(C) after 12 months) - this will no doubt put a lot of former ESA(C) claimants on to JSA(C) - Will these disabled people somehow be filtered out and given exclusion from the requirement to work ?
How Exactly ?
Whilst I appreciate that there are some people "playing the system" on JSA and ESA - I don't believe that compulsory work / or lose your benefits for 3 years can work - this surely breaks human rights laws ?

50Twuncle

lynzpower wrote: »

Yes, did you hear which company is ALLEGEDLY lined up for this nice little contract?

Please tell me not ATOS ?

vixen1500

lets drop the pension age to 60 for all that want to take it

That will free up lots of jobs

Better for the young to be working than the oldies

they will have more expenses raising kids and buying houses

they can then support their families and the oldies can enjoy the reward of having worked hard all their lives. Let them be the ones that have a lie in in the morning and watch daytime tv
:beer:

WhiteHorse

diable wrote: »

In the future the situation will get worse, a growing population, jobs being lost = more people on benefits thus costing the country more. If UK PLC can't generate enough enough money then they will raise every conceivable tax to generate more money until one day the out goings outstrip the income and it all goes t!ts up.

Very much so.

The industrial revolution is continuing. Fewer and fewer bodies are required, yet the population continues to increase. And yes, they will continue to raise taxes, so the question is, just what will they do when taxation approaches 100%?

frank_begbie

roy_harper wrote: »

My brother was told to work in the !!!!!! section of a distributer.
He refused to go for the interview.
That is the only company local to him that is employing anyone, because all the other industries are obsolete.

Would that count as a strike?

My son's job went when the company went bust.
He was being told to go for interviews 40 miles away, two bus changes and leaving the house at 5 a.m. to start at 9 a.m.

Would that count as a strike?

What I'm getting at, is how much discretion does the individual Jobcentre Plus interviewer have?

Pretty sure there's a limit that you can be expected to travel to work and its nowhere near 4 hours.

I think its around an hour and a half at most.

Gemstar30

frank_begbie wrote: »

Pretty sure there's a limit that you can be expected to travel to work and its nowhere near 4 hours.

I think its around an hour and a half at most.

Ummm you have a point there!

I saw a TV programme a few week ago where one politician suggested in his words 'travel from Merthyr Tydfil to Cardiff for a job is no distance at all - you have to go to the jobs, not expect them to come to you in the next town'.

Now from what I remember when living in Cardiff many years ago, that consisted of 2 buses totalling well over 2 hours each way.
Now if that is a benchmark, it is a lot more than what you state!

frank_begbie

Gemstar30 wrote: »

Ummm you have a point there!

I saw a TV programme a few week ago where one politician suggested in his words 'travel from Merthyr Tydfil to Cardiff for a job is no distance at all - you have to go to the jobs, not expect them to come to you in the next town'.

Now from what I remember when living in Cardiff many years ago, that consisted of 2 buses totalling well over 2 hours each way.
Now if that is a benchmark, it is a lot more than what you state!

It all depends how you're travelling.
If you have to get buses and trains it can make it a lot longer than if you can jump straight into your car.

If you're adding 4 or 5 hours to your working day, in my opinion that would be too much to ask anyone to do.

Much better to give someone the job that lives a lot nearer.

john539

frank_begbie wrote: »

If you're adding 4 or 5 hours to your working day, in my opinion that would be too much to ask anyone to do.

Much better to give someone the job that lives a lot nearer.

That's what an employer said of the man on the Tv programme & that's what he said he would do.