Benefits shake-up: warning for non-working claimants

Oldernotwiser

zaksmum wrote: »

I've got two nephews aged 21 and 23, both of whom suffer from dyspraxia and one in addition has Aspergers.

The older one has found a job as a care assistant but the younger one hasn't even had an interview after literally hundreds of applications.

To look at him, you wouldn't think there's anything wrong with him, but there's very little chance of him holding down a job on the off chance he should ever get one.

He's on JSA, and I do wonder what will happen to young people like him when these changes are operational. He has tried so hard to find a job but to no avail...there just aren't any for people in his position and it's unfair to label them scroungers.

But it's obviously correct that they're on JSA, which seems to me to be the point.

diable

frank_begbie wrote: »

The government have created a scapegoat for the state of the economy, the unemployed and the disabled.

And some people are ready to blame them instead of the real culprits, the bankers.

Echos the Nazi rise to power...........

dmg24

Completely OT - why has Gemstar30 been PPRed, what have I missed?

zaksmum

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

But it's obviously correct that they're on JSA, which seems to me to be the point.

No, only the younger one is on JSA...the older one got a job as a care assistant. He works really hard and takes all the overtime he can get, but says the vast majority of his colleagues are foreign.

The younger one does get very upset about his unemployed status, and I know it's correct for him to be on JSA, but I just wanted to point out that some young people are destined never to get a job no matter how hard they try.

This government is indeed making unemployed and disabled people their scapegoat, while simultaneously throwing our borders and our benefits system open to all the world's opportunists.

dmg24

zaksmum wrote: »

No, only the younger one is on JSA...the older one got a job as a care assistant. He works really hard and takes all the overtime he can get, but says the vast majority of his colleagues are foreign.

The younger one does get very upset about his unemployed status, and I know it's correct for him to be on JSA, but I just wanted to point out that some young people are destined never to get a job no matter how hard they try.

This government is indeed making unemployed and disabled people their scapegoat, while simultaneously throwing our borders and our benefits system open to all the world's opportunists.

I do work for someone who owns a group of care homes. The great majority of his staff are from overseas because of their work ethic. However he is more than willing (and in fact, would prefer) to employ UK citizens but rarely finds anyone that displays the same motivation.

I think it is really sad to write someone off as destined never to get a job. Maybe he just needs more support and encouragement?

Arg

Well they're probably going to get the opposite of that on JSA.
As for your point overseas employees it's not hard to see why.

dmg24

Arg wrote: »

Well they're probably going to get the opposite of that on JSA.
As for your point overseas employees it's not hard to see why.

If they do not feel they are being adequately supported on JSA they can ask for a referral to one of the external providers for more specialist help.

janninew

dmg24 wrote: »

Completely OT - why has Gemstar30 been PPRed, what have I missed?

I was wondering this too. I thought they made some very valid points.

50Twuncle

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

That doesn't answer my question. I was wondering why someone would be moved onto (CB) JSA rather than (IB) JSA and what would be the point of transferring them if they were only going to be "filtered out" from the basic job seeking requirements.

That is exactly what I am saying !!

zaksmum

dmg24 wrote: »

I do work for someone who owns a group of care homes. The great majority of his staff are from overseas because of their work ethic. However he is more than willing (and in fact, would prefer) to employ UK citizens but rarely finds anyone that displays the same motivation.

I think it is really sad to write someone off as destined never to get a job. Maybe he just needs more support and encouragement?

Believe me, this young man could not have had more support and encouragement. His mother also has a very severely disabled 18 year old who will never speak or be out of nappies, but she has tremendous patience and does all she can to help all of her sons as much as possible.

We as a family have always had a strong work ethic and even my father, made redundant at 61, was absolutely determined to find new employment after 45 years with the same company and did manage to do so.

We have given my nephew absolute support and will continue to.

But the facts are that due to his condition it's unlikely he will ever find a job.