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Migrants took 9 out of 10 jobs created under Labour

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  • olly300
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    diable wrote: »
    Why don't people from the UK go abroad and work like a lot of people did from the building trade in the 80's?

    People have and do. ;)
    I'm not cynical I'm realistic :p

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  • olly300
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    misa.blue wrote: »
    Maybe today's young people want easier jobs..
    They do.

    But they have been brought up to expect that.

    No one wants their child to do a hard job but unfortunately a mixture of media, schools and parents tend to place unrealistic or low expectations on what a child can do as a job.

    Particularly when you factor in that there are always jobs that aren't created when a child is 16-18 that they could end up doing.
    I'm not cynical I'm realistic :p

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  • kabayiri
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    chris_m wrote: »
    There may be one or two snaglets to that idea - firstly, MPs are elected, not appointed. Secondly, a candidate to become a Member of Parliament must be a British or Irish or Commonwealth citizen, which excludes most economic migrants of the origins that appear to be being discussed here.
    Sadly true, but shouldn't our elected officials reflect the populace?
  • Wookster
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    diable wrote: »
    The one thing I don't like is people harping on about how immigrants are taking jobs..... tough luck that is what life is like in a global village and leveller stop being so childish.

    Exactly. People forget that there is a competition for jobs and you gotta play hard to win.
  • Wookster
    Wookster Posts: 3,795 Forumite
    I think we knew that already, but with eastern europeans spreading like cockroaches all over the EU, it's a question of how they can compete.

    Reported for abuse.
  • Sapphire
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    diable wrote: »
    A lot of those people you call cockroaches had fathers or grandfathers that fought for this country and got screwed over. What goes around comes around and I have no qualms in a Polish plumber or builder doing work that someone born in this country will over price for do a bad job.

    I suppose it doesn't help with British people snapping up property in these countries to make money thus pricing the locals out of the market and forcing them to come to the UK looking to earn the money to buy a house back home.

    The problem in Poland is that there is absolutely no work in many villages outside the cities. That's why they are coming here, not because they are priced out of any local market.

    They also know they will receive benefits (at the taxpayer's expense) over here which they won't do in Poland. In Poland, they tend not to have many children, but once they are over here they become breeding factories because it pays them to do this.

    That's from someone who knows them well. :cool:

    As for the British indigenous people who are on benefits, and who are well able to work, they don't have to work to survive as they would have done in the past, so why would they?

    When will the British see sense? This situation cannot go on.
  • Sapphire
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    So because your father and uncle had a hard time youve tarred us all with the same brush.

    How long do we have to keep paying for the sins of our Fathers?.

    The Germans killed my Great uncle in 1917 and wounded my Grandfather at Dunkirk , I don't bare a grudge with Germany.

    I'm in the same position as Diable when it comes to ancestry.

    With respect, you cannot compare the situation of the British with that of the Poles vis a vis the Germans (or Russians). The Poles suffered truly unspeakable horrors during the German occupation of several years, and even had (for example) the delight of seeing more than 80 per cent of their capital systematically, deliberately destroyed by the Germans.

    Terrible scars were inflicted on people like my parents and grandparents by the actions of Germany and Russia. The Poles really suffered, and got kicked in the teeth in the most vile way for their often heroic attempts to get rid of their invaders.
  • poppycod
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    malifax wrote: »
    Go Figure, Only problem is we all scared of the R word

    Immigratoin has ruined this country.
  • PasturesNew
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    diable wrote: »
    My Uncle was a Pilot in 305 Squadron during the WWII was welcomed with open arms and flew countless missions to help England win the war, after the war they didn't want him here or allow him to do a proper job and he ended up washing dishes in a restaurant in Stoke in the end he emigrated to the US.

    My father who was in the Navy, Africa Star, Italy Star and Atlantic Star was also given a hard time after the war and ended up on a Panamanian travel document and was only naturalised in 1971.

    Not really a rant just venting at how people in this country complain and moan.
    That's a biased outlook.

    My mother, born here, her ancestors had been within 2 miles of where she lived for hundreds of years, worked in the war on "war work", skilled engineering. She was highly trained to make gun sights etc. She didn't get conscripted because her work and skill was so valuable.

    As soon as the war finished, she was out on her ear and back to "women's work"...

    After the war, all the jobs were for the Brits who had been sent to the war to fight. They came back to their jobs. People who had been working during the war were only keeping their seats warm for them.

    So it wasn't racist at all, it happened to everybody.
  • Wookster wrote: »
    Reported for abuse.


    can we call them ginger rodents then ?
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