Migrants took 9 out of 10 jobs created under Labour

DervProf

I`m not saying anything on this subject, otherwise chucky will be onto me.

In fact, posting this reply will probably unleash the wrath of the chuckle brother.

olly300

misa.blue wrote: »

Read the Mail article and comments below the article, this one is quite interesting:

"I run a company sub contracted to TFL we supply staff for night time maintenance on the London Underground, our teams clean, check and undertake repair work in the Underground tunnels throughout the Greater London area, more pertinently we pay 4 times the national average wage recognizing that our work is difficult, dirty, sometimes dangerous and with unsocial hours, a laborer working for us can take home up to £5000 per month with overtime, despite our best efforts we have been unable to find a single english person who is prepared to do such work, consequently we have been forced further afield and have over 160 polish staff, 90 Romanian, 62 Czech and 9 Lithuanians, during interviews I conducted english applicants complained about getting up early and all failed drug tests for cannabis and cocaine- the nature of our work means we drug test all employees-until we find english workers we will continue to employ foreigners, they work hard, never complain, and are always sober."
- Allan Cadwallader, London UK, 30/10/2010 10:58

Train drivers and station staff working for TFL on the tube network are drug tested and have to work odd shifts even though there is massive politicking about shifts. Most of those staff are British but then the jobs are easier............

olly300

ruggedtoast wrote: »

You could equally say British workers didn't want 9 out 10 jobs created under Labour.

Or, 9 out of 10 jobs created under Labour were so poorly paid that only migrants would do them. There isnt enough substance to this story. Its well known Labour did their best to create a low wage economy supported by huge numbers of immigrants, and tried to keep their core voters pacified by paying them benefits in compensation.

The only thing is that poorer people or the benefit underclass don't tend to vote.

If you want to get elected you need to keep the middle classes and the elderly happy.

Nu Labour only started to talk about immigration when they realised the BNP and similar parties were starting to win seats they relied on.

olly300

Optimist wrote: »

Interesting statement, does that mean it is all the Tories fault ?

Society and how companies view their staff has changed. You aren't a person but a resource.

You could blame the Tory government before that, you could blame the Labour government before that one etc but there are lots of factors which mean companies act differently towards staff.

nomoreboomandbust

misa.blue wrote: »

Read the Mail article and comments below the article, this one is quite interesting:

"I run a company sub contracted to TFL we supply staff for night time maintenance on the London Underground, our teams clean, check and undertake repair work in the Underground tunnels throughout the Greater London area, more pertinently we pay 4 times the national average wage recognizing that our work is difficult, dirty, sometimes dangerous and with unsocial hours, a laborer working for us can take home up to £5000 per month with overtime, despite our best efforts we have been unable to find a single english person who is prepared to do such work, consequently we have been forced further afield and have over 160 polish staff, 90 Romanian, 62 Czech and 9 Lithuanians, during interviews I conducted english applicants complained about getting up early and all failed drug tests for cannabis and cocaine- the nature of our work means we drug test all employees-until we find english workers we will continue to employ foreigners, they work hard, never complain, and are always sober."
- Allan Cadwallader, London UK, 30/10/2010 10:58

It begs the very important question (and I have never heard a proper response from the pro-immigration lobby), who were doing these jobs even ten years ago ?

olly300

nomoreboomandbust wrote: »

It begs the very important question (and I have never heard a proper response from the pro-immigration lobby), who were doing these jobs even ten years ago ?

Some jobs didn't exist as the technology wasn't there for example those in the IT and new media while other jobs didn't exist due to funding i.e. TFL with the tunnel maintenance, number of NHS nursing staff.

Then there is the fact that the baby boomers have started to retire leaving skills gaps. I know people who officially can live on their pension but are still working.

Plus there are all the admin based public sector posts that the Labour government created.

Finally there is the issue that the last government allowed nearly everyone with a child to claim benefits above child benefit. Making work not pay for lots of people particularly with a housing boom pushing up the price of rents.

diable

Why don't people from the UK go abroad and work like a lot of people did from the building trade in the 80's?

nomoreboomandbust

olly300 wrote: »

Some jobs didn't exist as the technology wasn't there for example those in the IT and new media while other jobs didn't exist due to funding i.e. TFL with the tunnel maintenance, number of NHS nursing staff.

Then there is the fact that the baby boomers have started to retire leaving skills gaps. I know people who officially can live on their pension but are still working.

Plus there are all the admin based public sector posts that the Labour government created.

Finally there is the issue that the last government allowed nearly everyone with a child to claim benefits above child benefit. Making work not pay for lots of people particularly with a housing boom pushing up the price of rents.

Are we really saying that no maintenance was carried out before labour came in, waving their magic wand and making up for years of tory neglect ?

nomoreboomandbust

diable wrote: »

Why don't people from the UK go abroad and work like a lot of people did from the building trade in the 80's?

I think that avenue has been well and truly shut for most uk tradesmen I'm afraid.

patman99

nomoreboomandbust wrote: »

I think that avenue has been well and truly shut for most uk tradesmen I'm afraid.

As an EU citizen, you can work in any EU country without impedance or predujice.