Wash your uniform at home ?

doodlez1612

jem16 wrote: »

Students are liable for tax just like any anyone else.

They are, but only once they earn past the £10,000 tax-free allowance. Even with a part time job most students won't actually do this so most students actually don't pay tax. And unless you have actually paid any tax (ie earn over £10,000 within a single tax year) then you cant get a rebate on it!

Although I can see why you got confused by what BookSurr meant when they said "students don't pay tax". What they meant is that as a student you are not actually employed by the university so there is no tax directly related to your uni work so specialist clothing required for your studies is not rebateable.

booksurr

doodlez1612 wrote: »

They are, but only once they earn past the £10,000 tax-free allowance. Even with a part time job most students won't actually do this so most students actually don't pay tax. And unless you have actually paid any tax (ie earn over £10,000 within a single tax year) then you cant get a rebate on it!

Although I can see why you got confused by what BookSurr meant when they said "students don't pay tax". What they meant is that as a student you are not actually employed by the university so there is no tax directly related to your uni work so specialist clothing required for your studies is not rebateable.

indeed I was using short hand for: student funding is non taxable income so students won't pay tax unless they have a paid job which brings in enough money to take them over the tax free allowance, currently £10,000 pa for 14/15, in which case any claim for a tax rebate will be limited to the amount of tax they actually paid. So if you have not paid enough tax to cover the refund for a uniform claim you won't get the full value of the uniform reclaim. The tax rebate on a "standard" uniform allowance (£60) being 20% x 60 = £12 . So you have to have paid at least £12 in tax in a single tax year before you can claim for the cost of washing a uniform/protective clothing you wear doing that paid job. Unpaid jobs are ... unpaid. Wearing a lab coat whilst attending practical classes is neither a paid or unpaid job, it is simply being a student in class!!!

in the context of the question I was answering I could not be bothered to write all that at the time. thank you for "forcing" me to do so now jem knows what I meant but not unreasonably expanded it for the benefit of the other readers of this thread who typically struggle with tax rules

Kernow666

i have been in my current job since aug 2010 , will i have to fill in the P87 form for every year i have worked to claim back or will one for with this years tax date be ok

booksurr

Kernow666 wrote: »

i have been in my current job since aug 2010 , will i have to fill in the P87 form for every year i have worked to claim back or will one for with this years tax date be ok

the expenses which you are claiming relate to the specific tax year in which you paid them, so rather obviously it is one form per year
as it says on the form "employment expenses you have had to pay during the year for which tax relief is due"

Anglicist

I am trying to fill in the P87 form to request a deduction for laundering uniforms on behalf of my partner, but am unsure how much to put under the Flat rate expenses. I can see a question "Do you wish to claim flat rate expenses?" When I tick the Yes, I am asked to tell how much expenses I am claiming.

My partner is a NHS employee, falling into category 4 (laboratory staff, etc.), with the agreed yearly flat rate expense deduction being £60.

How much should I put: (a) £24 (40% of £60) or (b) £60?

Does the P87 form need to be accompanied by a separate letter with his employer's name and address, and dates of employment for the past four years; his occupation, job title, and industry sector; etc.? I have seen some letter templates earlier in the thread.

I will appreciate any advice you may have.

Thank you,
Kasia

booksurr

Anglicist wrote: »

How much should I put: (a) £24 (40% of £60) or (b) £60?

you claim the "expense" incurred £60

Anglicist wrote: »

Does the P87 form need to be accompanied by a separate letter with his employer's name and address, and dates of employment for the past four years; his occupation, job title, and industry sector; etc.? I have seen some letter templates earlier in the thread.

you can of course chance your luck and "simply" send a letter outlining your claim

zootie

I work in a school nursery and have a fleece to wear outside (and inside too most of the time as the children free flow and door always open so it gets cold) it gets covered in paint, glitter glue, mud, gloop etc and I have to wash it at home. The fleece has the school logo on. Can I claim for laundering it?

Stintastic

Anglicist wrote: »

I am trying to fill in the P87 form to request a deduction for laundering uniforms on behalf of my partner, but am unsure how much to put under the Flat rate expenses. I can see a question "Do you wish to claim flat rate expenses?" When I tick the Yes, I am asked to tell how much expenses I am claiming.

My partner is a NHS employee, falling into category 4 (laboratory staff, etc.), with the agreed yearly flat rate expense deduction being £60.

How much should I put: (a) £24 (40% of £60) or (b) £60?

Does the P87 form need to be accompanied by a separate letter with his employer's name and address, and dates of employment for the past four years; his occupation, job title, and industry sector; etc.? I have seen some letter templates earlier in the thread.

I will appreciate any advice you may have.

Thank you,
Kasia

How do you find out what category is and subsequently how much can be claimed? I've looked on a few bits of the HMRC site and it's very confusing.


Thanks

booksurr

Stintastic wrote: »

How do you find out what category is and subsequently how much can be claimed? I've looked on a few bits of the HMRC site and it's very confusing.

Thanks

there is only one list and it is the link in the first post of this thread

assuming you are in healthcare, since that is the post you quote, there are only 5 options a) - e) I would have thought they were self explanatory
http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/manuals/eimanual/eim32712.htm

if you cannot work out which category you belong in then you probably don't belong in any of them, in which case, assuming it is a genuine uniform you wear, the default rate is £60 for any uniformed worker

booksurr

zootie wrote: »

I work in a school nursery and have a fleece to wear outside (and inside too most of the time as the children free flow and door always open so it gets cold) it gets covered in paint, glitter glue, mud, gloop etc and I have to wash it at home. The fleece has the school logo on. Can I claim for laundering it?

read this http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/manuals/eimanual/EIM32475.htm and pay particular attention to http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/manuals/eimanual/eim32480.htm " where the duties require it to be worn" Do they????? If you don't ask HMRC you won't get...

note that:
a) gloop etc is no different to the surveyor's dirt
b) wearing something for warmth is specifically excluded since that is not wholly and necessarily incurred only because of your job. If you are cold anyone and everyone puts on warm clothing and so is irrelevant. A fleece cannot be classed as protective equipment using any sensible assessment basis.