JJB gave grandsons ipod away.

Freddie_Snowbits

aliasojo wrote: »

Bless you. You haven't even read it all, have you? :rotfl:

Not got the time to, I would much better have a cup of tea. I refer to my earlier installment today.

Freddie_Snowbits wrote: »

Oh dear, can we not put this to bed.

Oh dear!

Freddie_Snowbits

zaksmum wrote: »

Numerous people on here have also said that JJB ARE at fault in this situation. I can't act on any advice given till my son gets home at the weekend - he's away at the moment as I've said, and meanwhile neither JJB or the police will talk to me because it wasn't me who initially reported what happened.

Why are you waiting to act and go to the police. A 'crime' has been commited!

zaksmum

Freddie_Snowbits wrote: »

No, Has OP got the Police involved?

No!

Hello...!!!! I cannot get the police involved. Only my son can do that and he's AWAY UNTIL THIS WEEKEND!!!!!!!!!!

Freddie_Snowbits

zaksmum wrote: »

Hello...!!!! I cannot get the police involved. Only my son can do that and he's AWAY UNTIL THIS WEEKEND!!!!!!!!!!

A here lies the problem. Where you with the child when the incdient occurred?

zaksmum wrote: »

My young grandson was in JJB with his dad trying on trainers and unfortunately left his ipod there. They went back to the shop as soon as they realised, about an hour later.

Granted!

But why did your son not go straight away?

zaksmum wrote: »

Son contacted the police but they say it's a civil matter, nothing they can do. Wrote to JJB Head Office and got the same reply.

Fobbed off, Granted!

But couldn't you take your Grandson to the Police?

A right mess, but the barrackroom lawyers again are not helping!

aliasojo wrote: »

Bless you. You haven't even read it all, have you? :rotfl:

Still not got anything to add?

aliasojo wrote: »

Are you a drama student by any chance?

aliasojo wrote: »

Do you never get embarrassed?

aliasojo

Freddie_Snowbits wrote: »

Not got the time to, I would much better have a cup of tea. I refer to my earlier installment today.

Appreciate the honesty. Admitting that doesn't really help give your comments any credence though.

aliasojo

Freddie_Snowbits wrote: »

Still not got anything to add?

Now...if you'd read through the thread like the rest of us, you would know exactly what my feelings are on the matter. No point in reiterating what I'd already said.

I'm just smiling at some of the other imput this morning and I'm chatting along. Is that acceptable?

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zaksmum wrote: »

Numerous people on here have also said that JJB ARE at fault in this situation. I can't act on any advice given till my son gets home at the weekend - he's away at the moment as I've said, and meanwhile neither JJB or the police will talk to me because it wasn't me who initially reported what happened.

And my son's claim may well be with the woman who took the ipod (NOT PHONE!!!) but what is he supposed to do about that? How could he find her? Surely that's a job for the police - or so I thought. My son HAS pushed the police to obtain copies of the CCTV tape but they have repeatedly refused as they say it's a civil matter.

I'm going to show my son the advice on here when he gets home and I'm sure he will then take action based on that advice. I can't do anything.

Yes - but with respect you need to differentiate the comments from those who know the law from those who know the morality. We ALL agree that JJB are in the wrong morally, but LEGALLY you don't have a leg to stand on if you're going to argue that a teenage Saturday shop assistant is liable for your son's iPod because he failed to uphold the store's lost property policy.

At the same time, your son might be away until this weekend but if he's really concerned about his iPod he would be acting a bit swifter, or getting you to report the crime on his behalf (as others have said). Why can he not phone the police?

I appreciate that you MIGHT get a sympathy cheque from JJB if you plead your case, but I'm trying to help you - as are others - but you don't seem to want to take our advice. Instead, you're promoting a public hanging for this poor JJB employee on this forum regardless of the fact that the overwhelming opinion here is that you're only going to succeed if you go to the police.

We're not having a go at you - merely pointing out that you're barking up the wrong tree and politely pointing you in the direction of a better tree to bark up.

Or you can continue to rant and rave about how JJB should have upheld their lost property policy ad infinitum, which is unlikely to get you very far.

Your choice...

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p.s. one thing others haven't mentioned here is whether you could get the staff at JJB to report the crime? They, after all, witnessed it...

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p.p.s. Just FYI - re: my last post. It's been a while since I studied law but you might want to examine the definition of 'belonging' in the Theft Act, as it could possibly be argued (though perhaps someone with better legal knowledge than I have could clarify) that actually JJB were the victims of the theft, hence why they should be the ones reporting it.

E.g. they had possession, not ownership, but does 'possession' qualify for the purposes of property 'belonging to another' under the statutory definition of theft? I can't remember...nor can I trawl through my notes at this stage!

Might be a good way to bypass all this wrangling...get JJB to report the crime as THEY were the ones who are victim (ignoring the fact you have better title to the iPod than they do...THEY have better title to the iPod than the thief!)

adouglasmhor

sookipeaspud wrote: »

Oh my!
Some posters are harbouring some deep disturbing behaviour. Almost to the point of asking for a lynching on the staff member! Many years ago these posters would have been at a witch hunt trial or public lynching. No wonder government has to nanny the masses.

As for pushing the police, well it's not like television, it won't get solved in an hour.
The police will have to take a report and statement then request the information from jjb regarding credit card, then seize the CCTV and convert it for court use, then request from the credit card company the private details of the woman, then arrest the woman, then put the matter before the crown, then they will prosecute, then a court hearing were the staff, police, thief, two barristers and witnesses give evidence and finally a community sentence along with compensation. Cost to public purse? Excess of 6000. Now times that figure by thousands in relation to petty crime across the land and you soon realise why the police and courts are overwhelmed and not on the beat.

All because a child left his toy in a shop...

Come on now! Barristers for a petty theft case? Would ordinary Solicitors or Notaries not be more likely? The rest is also only if the reprobate does not plead guilty at committal hearing (or whatever it is called in England and Wales) or by letter first.