Overtaking on cross hatchings

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I usually find that drivers that call other drivers " idiots " are usually the less competent of the two drivers.;)

Norman_Castle

It's weird how what you drive tends to dictate how others drive around you.

Yes,that must be the problem.Clearly it"s not your driving.I have been out in my car today,no problems.If I had been driving a Vectra it"s doubtfull I would have made it home in one piece,other drivers would have persecuted me endlesley,wrongly assuming i"m an idiot sales rep.

Shimrod

Paradigm wrote: »

I suspect you might be right!

While you may do things I wouldn't (& vice versa), I don't see anything that should provoke the responses in the vids.. certainly the guy in the silver 4x4!

Even with the camera you only see one side of the story. We can't see what is going on behind.

Another interpretation (I'm not saying this is what happened). 4x4 sees strider pulling out and waits for him to pass before pulling out to overtake the car in front. Strider takes his time pulling back in after overtaking (maybe the 4x4 is tailgating so Strider stays in the right lane on purpose). Either way, 4x4 is now peeved, so decides he's getting past regardless. Neither party is particularly innocent.

Strider590

^^ It's a 4x4, it's a Hyundia with a very poor diesel engine... The speed he came past me, he had to have a run up.

Paradigm

Norman_Castle wrote: »

Yes,that must be the problem.Clearly it"s not your driving.I have been out in my car today,no problems.If I had been driving a Vectra it"s doubtfull I would have made it home in one piece,other drivers would have persecuted me endlesley,wrongly assuming i"m an idiot sales rep.

I don't see a problem with his driving, I'll admit that the first overtake in the morris minor clip was a bit pointless & didn't get him anywhere but it was legal &, as far as I can tell, safe. The guy in the Focus then closed the gap to the morris & delberately moved out to block another overtake...why? If he's happy to travel at 38 or so then what does it matter if someone goes past?

In the 4x4 clip I can't see a problem at all, the 4x4 wasn't indicating to pull out, he wasn't cut up or blocked so what was his problem? Ok Strider may have been late returning to the inside lane but how does that justify the 4x4 drivers actions?

Shimrod wrote: »

Even with the camera you only see one side of the story. We can't see what is going on behind.

Another interpretation (I'm not saying this is what happened). 4x4 sees strider pulling out and waits for him to pass before pulling out to overtake the car in front. Strider takes his time pulling back in after overtaking (maybe the 4x4 is tailgating so Strider stays in the right lane on purpose). Either way, 4x4 is now peeved, so decides he's getting past regardless. Neither party is particularly innocent.

Totally agree with most but if getting "peeved" over something like that causes that reaction then god help us!

daveyjp

Be careful driving over hatched areas - as they aren't driven over often they 'collect' lots of rubbish.

Bricks, timber, large stones, scaffold clamps, bits of metal etc. Lots of things you don't want to hit at any speed.

rev_henry

Strider590 wrote: »

For safety, when overtaking on a dual carriageway and especially on a motorway you shouldn't pull in until you can see that vehicle is fully inside in your rear view mirror.... As taught by the institute of advanced motorists.
And eh I don't see any issue in riding over chevrons LEGALLY in order to make smooth progress....

I was also taught the rear view mirror thing in learning to drive 'normally', not for the IAM or anything. Those of you criticising strider seem to consider 'pointless' and 'illegal' to be the same thing. There was nothing wrong with the overtake before the focus; you are allowed to break the 2 sec rule if you're looking to overtake. If the focus driver hadn't deliberately blocked him from overtaking again (contravening rule 168: 'Never obstruct drivers who wish to pass. Speeding up or driving unpredictably while someone is overtaking you is dangerous.') then the overtake would not have been pointless.

Furthermore rule 169: 'Do not hold up a long queue of traffic, especially if you are driving a large or slow-moving vehicle. Check your mirrors frequently, and if necessary, pull in where it is safe and let traffic pass.'
Thus the moggie driver should really have let everyone pass at some point, but as he has a delightful automobile and not a tractor or something I think we'll let him off.

darich

Strider590 wrote: »

It's weird how what you drive tends to dictate how others drive around you.
I suspect that Vectra's have caught a bad name from being fleet vehicles driven by idiot sale reps up and down the motorways.

Since I started driving I've always had GTi, turbo, 4x4, something or other.
When I was 21 I owned a 1.8 Cavalier SRi
At 25 I was in a Cavalier 2.0T 4x4 (cosworth power)
A few years on now.......
My last car was a grey BMW Z4 3.0 with 18inch alloy wheels.
My current car is a black debadged Audi A4 Quattro with 19inch wheels and two exhaust pipes. It's also remapped but that's not visible.
I've never experienced the rage you have.
I've also have a private plate on which was on both cars just to further annoy the rep mobiles.....but it makes no difference.

Believe me, both cars can shift and I can overtake where most cars can't even think about it. Still no major rage experiences.

In your videos I would say your driving is a touch quick and possibly deemed aggressive ie overtaking in a queue even though it looked safe.
That quick driving in what is perceived as a repmobile can annoy drivers.
I've been driving long enough to let idiots pass me if they want - I don't want to be in an accident.....or worse.

EDIT : note I don't think illegal, perhaps a bit quick (but safe) and therefore deemed aggressive

darich

rev_henry wrote: »

I was also taught the rear view mirror thing in learning to drive 'normally', not for the IAM or anything.

Same here - don't pull in until you can see the car you've passed in your rear view mirror.
Normal driving lessons.

Norman_Castle

I don't see a problem with his driving,

The problem is the attitude towards all other road users.Obsessive to the point of putting films on youtube pointing out what he beleives to be examples of bad driving,highlighting registration numbers and calling people idiots and arrogant old fools.This apparently is being done to improve road safety.He also "hates vigilante drivers" despite being one himself.After watching the films it is clear his driving is not without fault despite beleiving he is driving "by the book".When this is pointed out he fails to understand his faults and calls everyone "pricks".

Vigilante-a self appointed protector of public order