Should I feed DD?!

angelicmary85

msb5262 wrote: »

I hope you don't mean it sounds as if you've been too soft with her today - not at all.
You decided what to serve for lunch.
DD helped you with it.
You served it.
She initially rejected it...but has come back and eaten some.
Your decision has been carried through without your DD being forced to eat - job done for now!
Well done.

No I don't mean today...I've been firm with her today, just sounds like I was too quick to give in before, now we just need to wait and see what happends at tea time.

By the way...what am I supposed to do at tea time?!! Do I give her an empty plate or what?!

Gleek

Reading your plight ( you have my full sympathy!) reminded me of this:

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/jo-frost-extreme-parental-guidance/episode-guide/series-1/episode-1

Unfortunatley the episode isn't available to watch on 4od but there are some clips and info - hope it helps. Good luck!

msb5262

angelicmary85 wrote: »

By the way...what am I supposed to do at tea time?!! Do I give her an empty plate or what?!

At tea time you do pretty much what you did at lunch time.
1. Decide what to serve.
2. Prepare it, perhaps with help from DD.
3. Serve it calmly and ignore any plate-pushing, rudeness etc.
4. Allow her to reject it if she likes but don't offer alternatives - certainly not cookies etc. She is at home, not in a restaurant where she can order what she wants!
5. Serve fruit, custard or yoghurt for pudding - perhaps with a cookie - regardless of whether or not she has eaten her main course.
6. Clear away calmly, tidy up, bath, story, bed.
NB. Demands for cookies etc need to be ignored unless they are already a planned part of the meal you are serving.
One cookie ONLY unless she has finished everything - and don't tell her there is any possibility of a second cookie until all the food has gone, or she'll know that she just has to push you to get another one.

angelicmary85

msb5262 wrote: »

Serve fruit, custard or yoghurt for pudding

I'm not questioning your advice but I'm wondering why she should get pudding if she doesn't eat her main?

msb5262

angelicmary85 wrote: »

I'm not questioning your advice but I'm wondering why she should get pudding if she doesn't eat her main?

Because it's part of the meal.

If you think of one part of the meal as "duty" (main course) and the rest as "treat" (pudding), you're encouraging a view of savoury foods as dull, necessary but not desirable and sweet foods as exciting, fun and desirable.

If you serve the meal and she chooses to eat part of it, she can see that meals are worth doing.
If she consistently eats only pudding items, give it a week or so and then tell her she'll need to eat some of each course.

Just make haste slowly!

Hope that helps.

angelicmary85

msb5262 wrote: »

Because it's part of the meal.

If you think of one part of the meal as "duty" (main course) and the rest as "treat" (pudding), you're encouraging a view of savoury foods as dull, necessary but not desirable and sweet foods as exciting, fun and desirable.

If you serve the meal and she chooses to eat part of it, she can see that meals are worth doing.
If she consistently eats only pudding items, give it a week or so and then tell her she'll need to eat some of each course.

Just make haste slowly!

Hope that helps.

O.k I'll give it a try...you're being very patient, Thank you!! :rotfl:

mikey72

At the risk of disagreeing, haven't you said that at least two of the pudding courses, custard and yoghurt, have been things she will eat and see as possibly a main course in there own right, and that she wouldn't eat the fruit even as pudding.
So I would still insist on eating a different food first, even if it is fruit, then giving her the "pudding" she likes.
But I agree to take it very slowly, and build on today.

mikey72

What's she had today so far, what sort of amounts and drinks, actually eaten?
What weight is she if you don't mind me asking?

thorsoak

angelicmary85 wrote: »

:rotfl:Little sausages!! :rotfl:

http://www.shopsafe.co.uk/halls-wee-willie-winkies-mini-sausages-20-per-pack-205g/99618749

Ingredients Pork (42%), Water, Rusk (Wheat Flour, Salt, Water), Pork Rind, Wheat Starch, Salt, Concentrated Soya Protein, Dextrose, Stabiliser (E450, E451), Preservatives (E223), Yeast Extracts, Wheat Flour, Antioxidants (Sodium Ascorbate), Spices, Herbs, Colour (Carmine).
Product Contains: Wheat Gluten, Sulphite, Yeast, Soya.
Free from Artificial Colours and Flavours.
Allergies Information Contains Gluten, Wheat, Wheat Flour, Wheat Starch, Soya , Soya Protein, Sulphite & Yeast
Nutrition nutrientper 100gEnergy kCal193kCalEnergy kJ806kJProtein9.7gCarbohydrate11.4gof which sugars0.4gFat12.1gof which saturates4.3gFibre0.6gSodium0.5g
Although you are having problems getting food into her, I would not be happy with the nutritional value of these sausages

I know it is difficult cooking from scratch - especially when you have a busy schedule and little madam turns her nose up at everything put in front of you - but have you tried her on a little minced chicken or turkey? I know you've said that you use soya mince, but haven't yet tried your daughter on it - is there a reason why not?

What about fish - has she had fish of any sort - fish fingers, little taste of salmon? What about eggs? Have you tried them yet?

I'm asking, because thinking about weaning turns itself on its head two or three times every generation - No 1 son (now 43) started weaning at 4 months, with bananas & rice cereal, then on to eggs :eek: then other fruits & veggies, then chicken - by the time he was a year old he was chomping cheerily on curry & rice - but by the time I had No 3 son (32) no weaning until at least 9 months!

Different countries have different ideas too - DGS (in Japan) was eating fish & rice at 7 months!

mikey72

thorsoak wrote: »

Ingredients Pork (42%), Water, Rusk (Wheat Flour, Salt, Water), Pork Rind, Wheat Starch, Salt, Concentrated Soya Protein, Dextrose, Stabiliser (E450, E451), Preservatives (E223), Yeast Extracts, Wheat Flour, Antioxidants (Sodium Ascorbate), Spices, Herbs, Colour (Carmine).
Product Contains: Wheat Gluten, Sulphite, Yeast, Soya.
Free from Artificial Colours and Flavours.
Allergies Information Contains Gluten, Wheat, Wheat Flour, Wheat Starch, Soya , Soya Protein, Sulphite & Yeast
Nutrition nutrientper 100gEnergy kCal193kCalEnergy kJ806kJProtein9.7gCarbohydrate11.4gof which sugars0.4gFat12.1gof which saturates4.3gFibre0.6gSodium0.5g
Although you are having problems getting food into her, I would not be happy with the nutritional value of these sausages

I know it is difficult cooking from scratch - especially when you have a busy schedule and little madam turns her nose up at everything put in front of you - but have you tried her on a little minced chicken or turkey? I know you've said that you use soya mince, but haven't yet tried your daughter on it - is there a reason why not?

What about fish - has she had fish of any sort - fish fingers, little taste of salmon? What about eggs? Have you tried them yet?

I'm asking, because thinking about weaning turns itself on its head two or three times every generation - No 1 son (now 43) started weaning at 4 months, with bananas & rice cereal, then on to eggs :eek: then other fruits & veggies, then chicken - by the time he was a year old he was chomping cheerily on curry & rice - but by the time I had No 3 son (32) no weaning until at least 9 months!

Different countries have different ideas too - DGS (in Japan) was eating fish & rice at 7 months!

I think she knows the ingredients, and as to the other question, I think she has made an effort somehow, quite a lot of effort beyond the normal in fact.

angelicmary85 wrote: »

I would stand at the cooker making her pots of mashed 'stuff' that she wouldn't eat, it got a bit depressing after a while.

I went into the supermarket and bought one of everything I could afford. I bought cereals, jars of baby food, veg for making soup, I even went as far as fresh tuna steaks !!!!!!!

Over the next few days we tried her with a bit of this and that and the hoops were the only thing (alongside supernoodles) that she would eat.