What would you do re this message from seller?

custardy

haz110 wrote: »

Hello all,


Sorry to resurrect the thread again, but I have bad news. This scam is still going on! I was one of the unfortunate jobseekers who had been out of work for months and was desperate for a job. After taking several rejections and knockbacks, receiving a job offer like this was amazing. I initially had so much trust in the company because of the channels I got it through - the Jobcentre. As a govt. run agency trying to help people back into good work, I naturally assumed all jobs that were advertised on their website were checked and vetted. How silly of me! I also checked the company registration number out which was legitmate and matched the address. I had never sold on Ebay before, only ever used it as a buyer. I checked ALL the seller info pages before I listed the items. There was NO info on how risky drop shipping is and potential scams. Considering how many people have been affected, this is a disgrace. I let all the buyers know what had happened imediately and told them all to open cases so they could get their money back and leave it to me to sort it out with Ebay/Paypal. Now I know how many other people have been scammed, it makes me sick the responses I have gotten from both of them. But what makes me really angry? If I had seen this job advertised in a paper or on some website, I wouldn't have gone anywhere near it. But because of the trust I had in the jobcentre, I assumed it was all legit. Anyway, the point of me writing on here is to alert people that lots of others have been scammed and a group effort is being made to bring awareness via media journalists and the BBC's Watchdog and the One Show. If you would like to be involved please email me at f9099508@bournemouth dot ac dot uk and I'll forward you all the info I have, as well as some advice I have to any other jobseekers who were caught in the scam on how to get compensation to cover the debts! The more voices we get, the further we can advance the cause, so please speak up!

as a seller you are meant hold th items you sell
so eBay arent going to tell you a risk that doesnt exist if you hold the stock

honestly,at no point do you not wonder why a company is offering this 'job'?
who exactly is going to compensate you?

haz110

No Custardy I didn't wonder. I thought that because the Jobcentre, a UK government run professional organisation responsible to vulnerable people in these times who are desperate for work, had allowed the company to advertise this job that it was all above board. I didn't apply for this job from the back of some newspaper or a dodgy website or spam email. I am unfortunately only one of a large number of people who actually get out of bed in the morning and try to get myself back into work, so I can support myself and become independant once again. It seems the other people like me who also put their trust in the jobcentre are being punished for not being the minority of lazy, free-loading spongers, who wouldn't have bothered applying for the job in the first place. Having never sold on Ebay before, I checked the pages. It doesn't say that if you don't have the items in your possession you can't sell. It doesn't say that drop-shipping (which I didn't even know it was called until after I did it) is against the rules. These pages are supposed to be there to guide new sellers, the ones like me who don't know the rules, who aren't seller savvy. I understand that my naivety and trust mean I am responsible for what happened, but if I hadn't had a lot of help from the Jobcentre and Ebay in remaining trusting and ignorant, I honestly don't believe I would be in the same situation.

custardy

haz110 wrote: »

No Custardy I didn't wonder. I thought that because the Jobcentre, a UK government run professional organisation responsible to vulnerable people in these times who are desperate for work, had allowed the company to advertise this job that it was all above board. I didn't apply for this job from the back of some newspaper or a dodgy website or spam email. I am unfortunately only one of a large number of people who actually get out of bed in the morning and try to get myself back into work, so I can support myself and become independant once again. It seems the other people like me who also put their trust in the jobcentre are being punished for not being the minority of lazy, free-loading spongers, who wouldn't have bothered applying for the job in the first place. Having never sold on Ebay before, I checked the pages. It doesn't say that if you don't have the items in your possession you can't sell. It doesn't say that drop-shipping (which I didn't even know it was called until after I did it) is against the rules. These pages are supposed to be there to guide new sellers, the ones like me who don't know the rules, who aren't seller savvy. I understand that my naivety and trust mean I am responsible for what happened, but if I hadn't had a lot of help from the Jobcentre and Ebay in remaining trusting and ignorant, I honestly don't believe I would be in the same situation.

thats a nice long post
however step back

seller with goods wants you to use your selling account to sell for them
paying you a handsome % for doing it
why wouldn't they open their own account?
you can blame whomever you wish but you have found this forum now
what stopped you doing the same before to check it was legitimate?

alfiesmum

haz110 wrote: »

No Custardy I didn't wonder. I thought that because the Jobcentre, a UK government run professional organisation responsible to vulnerable people in these times who are desperate for work, had allowed the company to advertise this job that it was all above board. I didn't apply for this job from the back of some newspaper or a dodgy website or spam email. I am unfortunately only one of a large number of people who actually get out of bed in the morning and try to get myself back into work, so I can support myself and become independant once again. It seems the other people like me who also put their trust in the jobcentre are being punished for not being the minority of lazy, free-loading spongers, who wouldn't have bothered applying for the job in the first place. Having never sold on Ebay before, I checked the pages. It doesn't say that if you don't have the items in your possession you can't sell. It doesn't say that drop-shipping (which I didn't even know it was called until after I did it) is against the rules. These pages are supposed to be there to guide new sellers, the ones like me who don't know the rules, who aren't seller savvy. I understand that my naivety and trust mean I am responsible for what happened, but if I hadn't had a lot of help from the Jobcentre and Ebay in remaining trusting and ignorant, I honestly don't believe I would be in the same situation.

You sound incredibly anrgy. But I suspect (in fact I'm almost certain) Custardy isn't working undercover for either the scammers OR the job centre. So airing your frustrations at him isn't going to help you. Stick to the basic facts as it'll make your posts easier to read. Emotive phrases like 'professional organisation responsible to vunerable people' is shorter if you say 'job centre' or up here 'the dole'. Best of luck sorting it out, but taking some responsibility for your actions will spur you on towards some sort of conclusion I'm sure, rather than aportioning (sp?) blame. And good luck with your continued job search, they're out there. A job seeker as determined as yourself will find the right position soon. All the best.

haz110

I apologise if my response appeared to vent at Custardy. But I posted on here to reach out to the other people who have gone through the same distressing situation as I have, so that they know they are not alone. A lot of other victims have been too scared or ashamed to post on forums like this. As Custardy does not appear to be a victim of this scam, does not have any information on/about this scam and was not offering helpful advice, I don't understand why they felt the need to post such a negative opinion. I have taken responsibility for my actions, I contacted the police and handed over every bit of evidence I had to give them the best chance of catching these people, I let all the buyers know immediately what had happened and how to claim their money back and I contacted the Jobcentre to make sure no one else could apply for the job. I just want the jobcentre/ebay/paypal to also take some responsibility here, the former made it possible for the fraudsters to create trust and the latter treats the victims of the scams like the criminals and makes their lives even more miserable. Thank you for the luck, I managed to take this experience and use it in a positive way. I've since had two job offers and will be starting work in a few weeks. So all is not doom gloom I suppose!

clairibel

Your right negativity never solved anything and i feel sorry for you and all the others.

I know someone who got scammed but realized before they forwarded the money and it was a very plausible set up, i saw it myself and alarm bells did not ring until the scammers made silly mistakes.

If it was so easy to read through this scam it wouldn't work would it and lots of people are being hit by it every day and the majority through the jobcentre site.

madget_2

I think the fact that the Job Centre is still advertising these scams as legitimate jobs is hugely concerning. They've been warned about it, but still persist.

I agree that it reeks of a scam to me, but the Job Centre lends it an air of legitimacy, and so makes it more likely that people will fall for it.

Kaluki

I was one that was caught out by scam job in job centre, by the time i relsed it was a scam job, i had nearly £2000 but hadnt handed it over, so refunded every body, most were ok and understanding, as i was refunding 17 people all over £100 at a time, pp security kicked in
and sent out e cheques whick took 7 days to clear, had one nasty feedback basicly calling me a liar, but they did all get their money back, and i managed to get all my ebay fees refunded so got off lightly, i konw of people thousands out of pocket.
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