iPhone '4' thread

MORPH3US

jimbms wrote: »

I am afraid on a downside for HTC users one of the providers are scrapping the desire on contract due to lack of sales and them wishing to concentrate on the 4 instead.

Which provider is scrapping the Desire? and do you have any evidence to back this up?

BillScarab

Morph3us, look where jimbms is posting from. I doubt very much if it will have any effect in the rest of the world.

lucylucky

djrobmac wrote: »

Wanna see those "untouched" iPhone 4 camera photos??

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FOR THE WIN :T

Very nice, as anyone advertising the phone would want.

Can't see anyone posting duff pics to show off the camera

djrobmac

New telegraph piece http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/7811955/Apple-iPhone-4-an-update-on-those-reasons-not-to-buy-one.html

ampletime

Fire_Fox wrote: »

What an incredibly patronising post. What is your source for suggesting everyone who chooses an Apple product is a 'fanboy' who doesn't know anything else? If you had the intellect you intimate you would not HAVE bought the PrePlus you would HAVE purchased an HTC handset. It should go without saying that the iPhone 4 will be outclassed in the next few months.

Of course some people get an iPhone or an iPad simply because it is made by Apple. Of course some people just go on styling or are blinded by slick advertising. Many who bought the Desire or EVO just got it because it's shiny, new and has pose value: that doesn't make all Android users morons by association! :rotfl:

Your usage of your handset is not superior to mine, it is simply different. No doubt if I gave you my 3GS you'd have no use for the inbuilt Nike+ sensor nor the fitness, health and research apps I have loaded. I did spend time researching specs, don't play games, rarely use a camera and e-mail from my laptop. Crack on and find a BlackBerry or Palm product that would meet the needs of THIS qualified personal trainer. :j

I think you took my post the wrong way and i am sorry for that. I havent said that my handset is better than yours but the OS and UI is. I do not think that all those who purchase an iphone are fan boys but some on here are.

poppy10_2

djrobmac wrote: »

Wanna see those "untouched" iPhone 4 camera photos??

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FOR THE WIN :T

They've had all the camera's EXIF information stripped out. Highly suspicious if they are indeed 'untouched' photos - perhaps trying to hide the use of Adobe Photoshop to enhance the pictures?

BillScarab

To be honest I doubt if they're photoshopped. If they are and it got out the negative publicity would be a major embarassment.

They're decent photos but then they were probably taken by a professional photographer and they're hardly going to pic a few random snaps to promote their new phone.

Rochdale_Pioneers

Stripping away the partisan bickering it seems clear that the new 4th gen iPhone has caught up technology-wise with the pack leaders from HTC on most points. Which makes it a very good handset just not the giant leap forward that Apple always hype them as.

The big question now will be around the OS. Android is developing at a rapid pace and now outsells Apple in the US. Apple appear to be grudgingly allowing limited multitasking of certain applications - will this be enough to compete against the competition? For a lot of Apple users the answer is probably yes. If you're already on your 2nd or 3rd iPhone you probably got used to the limitations of the OS- you don't miss what Apple never allowed you to have.

So regardless of whether the new iPhone 4 is good/bad/better/worse than whatever, Apple will sell them at a premium price by the bucketload and make an enormous profit. You have to give them credit - their business model is devious!

ampletime

The reason that the iphone 4 is cutting edge and a breakthrough in phone design is:



1. Most of the problems associated with living in Apple's walled garden are still not fixed. You are still too dependant on having Steve Jobs decide what you can download and when. Since Jobs thinks that Adobe Flash is bad and won't allow it on Apple devices, you can't see half of what's out on the web.
2. The name implies that it is a 4th generation mobile phone when it is actually still 3G. Apple says that it is the Iphone 4, however some might be dumb enough to believe that it can use the 4th generation wireless broadband standards, although it really can't.
3. The Iphone 4 appears to have trouble with WiFi. Apple is historically quite bad at engineering WiFi products that work. Many of its flaws have been related to Airport. When Jobs attempted to show off the Iphone 4 the WiFi did not not work. Jobs claimed it was because there were too many people using WiFi in the Moscone conference centre, but we have to take his word for that. The Apple Ipad has a similar problem in that you have to be practically sitting on a wireless router for it to get a decent WiFi connection. This is ironic as the Iphone 4 has a stainless-steel band around the outside edge that Apple says is designed to improve WiFi network reception, but it still doesn't seem to work very well.
4. The Iphone 4 is selling on its video-calling program, called FaceTime. However this is limited to WiFi networks for now, which means that the best thing about the Iphone 4 will not work in most locations unless you happen to be near a WiFi hot spot. Also you can only conference with other Iphone 4 users. We have already seen that the Iphone 4 has problems with WiFi.
5. The Iphone 4, while thinner, still has that easy to slip out of your hands shape. This means that you have to buy those covers which bulk the thing out again. It also still has a plastic back which can be scratched and break.
6. A 16GB model is priced at $199, and a 32GB version will sell for $299. The markups on the devices are outrageous. The monthly charges on contracts are higher than with other smartphones because not only are the network operators subsidising Apple's ridiculously high prices for the devices, but Apple also demands a cut, said to be up to 30 per cent, of users monthly charges, further driving up the cost.
7. Judging by Apple's previous behaviour the Iphone 4 will be out of date within a year, although most mobile phone contracts are for two years.
8. Something more Androidish in a smartphone does more for the same price, without the Apple lock in.
9. The Iphone 4 is built by Chinese wage-slaves working 12-hour shifts in conditions that have led to a rash of suicides, and Apple has called police to suppress freedom of the press. While the Iphone 4 is not 'less moral' than the Iphone 3G, users now have less excuse to turn a blind eye to how the product is made.


Steve Jobs will make millions from this whilst those that make it earn very very very little or kill themselves. This is the Apple way of doing things.

wireframe_2

gjchester wrote: »

Considering copyright you cannot currently put *ANY* music on the iPhone apart from items you buy in the iTunes store. UK Law does not permit you to rip a CD you own into iTunes as you have no right to a copy on any other media thean you originally bought it on.

That can't be true - spotify tells me all the time that "the tracks you bought are yours to own - you can burn them to cd and take them with you" - surely that's changing the format in which they're. The ripping of cds to a different format consitiutes "Fair use".