operation recovery

taxi73

I read some pages on amazon and it seemed what I'm looking for.

elantan

Oh that's great and interesting ... In what way might it be of use for you ?

taxi73

A lot of cancers are related to hormones as well and reading through bits on amazon there is a lot that makes sense.

elantan

Yeah I noticed the connection myself between the two .... I thinknthat was one of the things that spurred me onto looking into it all more deeply ... Fibroids is more than enough for me to deal with .... Eat to live is slightly different it doesn't agree with milk for instance but I think a mixture of both is the way to go for me

patchwork_cat

elantan wrote: »

Oh thanks to kc I just noticed you have lost 22kgs patchwork .... Well done how have u managed it ? Do u feel mentally different ?

No! That is part of what is getting me. It has taken an awfully long time I lose weight very slowly! However I am for example still in the same size bra! Very frustrating as I am a 38JJ! I am just eating less with a high protein lunch. I am trying to do more, but I need to increase that to increase the weight loss. I know I am a lot slimmer, but with a large chest everything hangs off that and people don't notice. Still I am over half way there.

elantan

You have my total heartfelt sympathy there ... I am now a 34/36h I was previously. 36 hh ... Even when I was a slim size 10 I was a 32gg ... It might sound a bit like a cop out but I have wondered if some of my weight issues have anything to do with my large breasts ... When I was a slim 10 size 32gg I used to have total strangers coming up to me and feeling my breasts not asking permission just copping a feel I noticed people also didn't talk to me they talked to my chest ... I was a very self concious person that hated the attention they brought and I have wondered if in some way me putting on weight was to try and get people to take me seriously and to stop them touching me up ... Having been sexually abused as a kid it really messed with my head people touching me ... Now I am trying to get myself to get over it all ... I am not tht same young girl ... And yet the minute people tell ke I have lost weight I start to panic

Karmacat

elantan wrote: »

Kc it will need to be more than that for me honey ... I already drink 2 litres atleast per day of water I have atleat 4-5 pieces of fruit atleast 3-4 pieces of veg per day I walk upto 10 miles three times a week ... This time I need to be more savvy about what I am doing .... It's more about what I shouldn't eat than what I should I think

You said you lived really unhealthily - but what you're describing is great :j:j:j Okay, I get it tho, the issues around unhealthy stuff at the same time.

elantan wrote: »

My instinct on what I am learning ... You know this bit is quite interesting ... I am Reading what I have read so far and very little of it is new to me ... I know it already ... But at the same time it's like all the bits I know suddenly fitting together and making sense I am gathering a more fuller understanding to alot of my problems that I have had for years ( had hormone issues for as Long as I can remember) the changes that I need to make are also smaller than I thought ... Get rid of all the plastic tubs for glass for instance ... Eat organic ... Still getting there slolwy but getting there

Ooh, thats when you're really internalising it, then its with you forever - good for you :j

elantan wrote: »

You have my total heartfelt sympathy there ... I am now a 34/36h I was previously. 36 hh ... Even when I was a slim size 10 I was a 32gg ... It might sound a bit like a cop out but I have wondered if some of my weight issues have anything to do with my large breasts ... When I was a slim 10 size 32gg I used to have total strangers coming up to me and feeling my breasts not asking permission just copping a feel I noticed people also didn't talk to me they talked to my chest ... I was a very self concious person that hated the attention they brought and I have wondered if in some way me putting on weight was to try and get people to take me seriously and to stop them touching me up ... Having been sexually abused as a kid it really messed with my head people touching me ... Now I am trying to get myself to get over it all ... I am not tht same young girl ... And yet the minute people tell ke I have lost weight I start to panic

El, thats assault, and an absolutely horrendous experience, I'm so sorry you've been through that. And of course already suffering sexual trauma from childhood, you'd be so vulnerable to it. I guess the panic goes back to that - are you getting any help with that?

I do know of one acquaintance who had a breast reduction, which helped with her back problems. And breasts have weight to them, of course. But its a big step, I'm sure it is; can you get any feedback from your GP?

elantan

hey kc dont get me wrong i do eat healthily... i love veggies and fruit etc ... but i do eat junk also... i dont excercise enough... and i need to accept responsibility for my behaviours... so i am hoping that this hard deep research and looking at my life will help make the permanant changes that i need to make


yes it was abuse.. it was what it was i now need to deal with the outfall ... it is how i deal with it all that matters ... funny thing though i thought i had dealt with my sexual abuse as a child (also physical and mental) until i looked into my weight and there smack bang between the eyes it came back up strange how these things go isnt it ?... i think you are totally right ... i think the panic does stem from it ... i literally break out in a sweat when someone comments to me that i have lost weight ... i do become the deer stuck in the headlights ..

i wouldnt get my breasts reduced ... i have been offered to get them reduced even my husband used to offer and say honey we will find the money they are making you so unhappy ... but i am glad i didnt ... they are part of me part of my identity and something i need to manage... i also wouldnt put myself through an operation unless i needed it ... yes i do have back pain but a good fitting bra does help with that ... and the more i am reading about the endocrine system the more i am understanding ways in which to control the hormones and therefore maybe actually naturally let them shrink

patchwork_cat

El that is awful. I know what you are saying about hiding behing the weight. You have had one of the adverse childhood experience and that is linked to weight issues - http://www.acestudy.org/files/ACE_Score_Calculator.pdf and http://www.nospank.net/stevens.htm. First use the first link to calculate your score then read the second article. I have a score of 4 and there is a lot of data on google regarding ACE scores and issues in adulthood. I found this last year when my brother was having a hard time ( it is my turn again now, I am really suffering). I ended up saying to him that we are strong as neither of us has tried to commit suicide, become a drug addict etc.... I had a really bad time at the weekend, I don't know what started it but I was in a bad place. I was very depressed following my mum's death 15 years ago and that took me years to come off anti depressants and it looks like I am going back there. I am determined not for long though.

As I say it is because of my problems with anxiety that I didn't have the operation on my fibroid. If I had an issue with the dentist there would be lots of help as it is there is very little.

With regards to food. I am sure that like me you know what you should be doing it is just a matter of doing it!! It is the brain that helps lose weight and it is getting the mindset, right enough I am not going to be a victim anymore. Have you had CBT?

There is no magic weight loss method. There are things you can tweak to maximise it, but you need to keep eating less and doing more and working through those weeks when nothing comes off and being determined. The body may conspire against you at times it doesn't really want to lose weight. Your brain and willpower have to be stronger. Sometimes you fall off the wagon, but as long as you are back eating healthily and doing more within a couple of days you WILL get there.

Karmacat

elantan wrote: »

hey kc dont get me wrong i do eat healthily... i love veggies and fruit etc ... but i do eat junk also... i dont excercise enough... and i need to accept responsibility for my behaviours... so i am hoping that this hard deep research and looking at my life will help make the permanant changes that i need to make

Thats where I was going wrong, I didn't realise you were already doing so much that was right!


yes it was abuse.. it was what it was i now need to deal with the outfall ... it is how i deal with it all that matters ... funny thing though i thought i had dealt with my sexual abuse as a child (also physical and mental) until i looked into my weight and there smack bang between the eyes it came back up strange how these things go isnt it ?... i think you are totally right ... i think the panic does stem from it ... i literally break out in a sweat when someone comments to me that i have lost weight ... i do become the deer stuck in the headlights ..

At least you have a good idea why. We call is "sytemic" - when bad stuff is as bad as childhood sexual abuse, it affects every system in your whole self - your physical body, your emotional being, your thoughts, your behaviour, everything all you can do is deal with each layer as it presents. And you're doing that, so good for you.

i wouldnt get my breasts reduced ... i have been offered to get them reduced even my husband used to offer and say honey we will find the money they are making you so unhappy ... but i am glad i didnt ... they are part of me part of my identity and something i need to manage... i also wouldnt put myself through an operation unless i needed it ... yes i do have back pain but a good fitting bra does help with that ... and the more i am reading about the endocrine system the more i am understanding ways in which to control the hormones and therefore maybe actually naturally let them shrink

That sounds really interesting, and very positive - part of you, and there's a feedback loop between being healthy and your body responding healthily ..... I'll be really interested to know how you get on.
xxx