New Look MSE Forum

tomstickland

I'm happy to use the old one. It works, I like it, it's there.

InaPickle

OMG I've just discovered that new statistics box on my thread and I somehow feel wierdly violated! :eek:

It's not so much the number of views of anything, rather the Twitter and Facebook thing (I have an idea but no confirmation as to what the Wow Factor button is). I keep my Twitter and Facebook accounts very seperate from my MSE world, and even though I know that people could fairly easily copy and paste a link to my diary, it seems unlikely that they would, and it just seems that it would make it easier (and give me visual proof) that they had done so. I mean, that's great for general threads like the 'No Buying Toiletries in May' thread, and deals etc., but I have always kept MSEing away from everything else and would freak at the idea that my two worlds might have any more chance of colliding. I would absolutely die of mortification if anyone guessed who I am.

This probably sounds wierd to anyone else, but I guess my diary is my MSE home and it's the possibility of inviting gatecrashers who might not even have anything to do with MSE to a party I'm throwing. Is there no way of exempting diaries (which are by their nature more personal) from that option?

bat-out-of-hell

Thought this may help, a side by side look, but cut like this the old style has more white so should (does?) seem brighter/higher contrast...........................

Aesop

bat-out-of-hell wrote: »

Thought this may help, a side by side look, but cut like this the old style has more white so should (does?) seem brighter/higher contrast...........................

That's weird, isn't it! I actually find the picture on the left, the new site, quieter than the one on the right, but whilst reading tonight, found the new site very loud!

just had another look, think it is the black lines, they do help break up the white on old style, making it less harsh to read.

jamesd

laurz121 wrote: »

In case anyone doesn't believe that they're the same here's a picture.

I believe that they are the same. I've also checked, but can't argue with the effect it has on my ability to read the text. The BBC story I linked to earlier also has the same colour but it's still easier to read than V2 here.

The green right hand border colour in the V1 version may be part of the difference, as well as the darker green in the new one in some areas. It's the largest non-white color area in V1 at my typical window size and the swapping of white for green on the left side might not be compensating.

This makes me wonder whether it's a variation on the checker shadow illusion and it's interesting explanation.

Do we have any specialists in the field of visual perception around here.

Trialia

What bat-out-of-hell said: changing the CSS for the site is NOT a big task, Martin. In fact, it's trivial.

For those of us who are using Firefox, if you actually want to use version 2, you could always install the add-on Stylish and write your own CSS to alter the painfully bright contrast of black-on-white.

Oh, and Laurz? I don't actually use Microsoft Word for just that reason - I write my code in Notepad and my fiction in OpenOffice Writer.

tomstickland

jamesd wrote: »

This makes me wonder whether it's a variation on the checker shadow illusion and it's interesting explanation.

Do we have any specialists in the field of visual perception around here.

I'm not an expert, but know that your perception of brightness and colour is all relative to the surrounding colours.

As an example when a TV is off then the screen looks a greyish colour. But when you watch a film and it's dark then you perceive the darkest colour as pitch black.

Sooler

Trialia wrote: »

For those of us who are using Firefox, if you actually want to use version 2, you could always install the add-on Stylish and write your own CSS to alter the painfully bright contrast of black-on-white.

also an option in Firefox is to set your own colours
Tools - Options - Content - Colours

Untick use system colours

Untick Allow pages ....

Set your own background and text colours.

This will effect all sites you visit.


Same option in IE , Tools - Internet Options - Colors

Trialia

Sooler wrote: »

also an option in Firefox is to set your own colours
Tools - Options - Content - Colours
Untick use system colours
Untick Allow pages ....
Set your own background and text colours.
This will effect all sites you visit.
Same option in IE , Tools - Internet Options - Colors

There's that, too, but the Stylish mod will only affect this site, for people who want their other pages to stay the same.

fermi

Agree with the others.

Providing an additional style with slightly tweaked CSS for background colours is a ridiculously simple thing to do.

For example, I am currently using something along these lines in Stylish.

@namespace url(http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml);

@-moz-document domain("forums.moneysavingexpert.com") {

.alt1, .alt1Active
{
    background: #E6F3DF !important;
}

.alt2, .alt2Active
{
    background: #D9E5D2 !important;
}

.inlinemod
{
    background: #FFFFCC !important;
}

}

As simple as that.

Which gives something like:



Much easier on the eye if viewing for any length of time.