Utility Warehouse (Telecom Plus) Discussion

HappyMJ

Seems so. Utility Warehouse is now 25% more expensive than Npower SOL 23 @ £968. UW high user is £1,210. Using average usage 16,500kWh and 3,300kWh East Midlands.

It's 16% more expensive than the cheapest standard plan from EDF at £1,040.
The most expensive standard plan with the big 6 is British Gas at £1,199.

MillicentBystander

We won't get a totally meaningful comparison until all the companies' increases are factored into the switching sites. One thing I will say, I somehow can't see the Which? 'UW is 20% more expensive' claim being confirmed. Nowhere near it. I've still no idea how they came up with that one.


PS The Midlands electricity new figures do seem a little weird, though.

Cardew

Just done the same comparison for a London address.

Gas Standing Charge has increased by 43% and gas units(kWh) by 14.5%

Electric Standing Charge has also increased by 43% and electricity units by 23.4%

Cardew

Seeing as we are having a league table of just how much more expensive UW are than other companies, I am going to bid for first place!

I have high consumption and my tariff is with a company that have just increased their prices. Should I switch to UW their cheapest tariff is 52% more expensive than mine and would cost me well over £900 extra.

HalloweenJack

what you must consider is the savings to be made when you take other services.... free calls for example (going devils advocate here for the quiet UW reps)

MillicentBystander

Nothing new from Cardew. His consumption figures are frankly ludicrous and UW will never be an option for him. But it's always what he doesn't say that turns out to be the most interesting thing (went to the Alistair Campbell School of Spin, I reckon).

MillicentBystander

Following on from last night's Cardew revelation, as he has given only fleeting details in his post, I thought I'd have a bit of fun and try and fill in the blanks with a bit of informed guess work.

OK, he cryptically says he is on a tariff from a supplier that has already increased its prices but tantalisingly doesn't name the tariff. Here's my hfirst bit of guess work. IIRC He was previously on an Eon fixed rate that ended July so I reckon he transferred over to Eon's Save Online Dual Fuel 9 tariff, which significantly hasn't had an increase. Yet . Now, if that bit of guesswork is correct, we go onto another bit of guess work involving his consumption figures. What he has told us is that his figure is 'well over' £900 cheaper than the cheapest UW tariff (which will obviously be the high user tariff).

Over to energyhelpline and inputting figures to get just that scenario. Took about 5 mins to get the next bit of guess work up and running. To be 'well over' £900 cheaper than the cheapest UW tariff, I'm reckoning his consumption must read something like this:

Gas 70,000
Electric 10,000

http://www.energyhelpline.com/fri/fri/Domesticenergy/Domestic/Results?Id=e8ee25a7-64d8-4619-b8ff-9f410173b6f8&PostCode=SE5%209SP&RegionCode=5&CurrentGasTariffId=479728&CurrentElectricityTariffId=479686&CompareGas=True&CompareElec=True&GasUsageUnknown=False&ElecUsageUnknown=False&GasProfileOrigin=UserInputKWh&ElecProfileOrigin=UserInputKWh&CurElecSpendPeriod=PerMonth&CurElecUse=10000&CurElecUsePeriod=PerYear&CurElecEconomy7=False&CurElecEconomy7Usage=0.55&CurGasSup=59&CurGasSupTariff=1212&CurGasPayMthd=1&CurGasSpendPeriod=PerYear&CurGasUse=70000&CurGasUsePeriod=PerYear&ComparisonType=GasAndElectricity&PrefRadioSelector=None&AllTariffs=AllTariffs&SortByPrice=ExpectedSaving&SecSortByPrice=ExpectedSaving&FuturePayMthd=1&ClientHasJavaScript=False&CurElecSup=59&CurElecSupTariff=1212&CurElecPayMthd=1&SupplyType=DualGasAndElectricity&SimpleGasUsageLevel=Medium&SimpleElecUsageLevel=Medium&ShowAll=True&Skip=0&Page=0&SecShowAll=False&SecSkip=0&IsCustomerInputComplete=False&ProRataPreference=True&AgentId=0&CalcCurGasUsage=70000&CalcCurElecUsage=10000&SavingsThreshold=0&CurrentTotalSpendPerAnum=3140.9992320000000000000000000&CurrentGasSpendPerAnum=2108.3452320000000000000000000&CurrentElectricitySpendPerAnum=1032.6540000000000000000000000&SwitchId=0

:eek::eek:

Close? Cigar?

MillicentBystander

Like I said earlier, it's what Cardew doesn't say that's always the interesting bit.

So he's on a 'hidden tariff' that no-one else can get, apparently :cool: It's a good job I'm not cynical because i reckon the truly cynical would suggest that thread's an attempt at saving face over the some would say unbelievable savings claim post yesterday. But I'm not cynical so take it all as gospel.

MillicentBystander

Paying for a lot of hot air perhaps?

janninew

Maybe Cardew needs to look at reducing his consumption, unless he's running a hotel! I have a 4 bed detached, have been home all last winter on maternity leave and don't use anywhere near that amount! I am surprised when he compared his figures he didn't give the full story behind his current tariff, maybe he'll come back after his tariff has been increased and we can see the difference then!

Talking about reducing consumption, what do people think about wood burning fires? I'm thinking about getting one fitted, does it really make a big difference to how much gas you use?