Indicators

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JoolzS wrote: »

I indicate all the time whether or not there is any other traffic or pedestrian around. It's just easier to have indicating as a normal part of driving - it was how I was taught to drive.



Julie

Well you were taught badly then.;)

Jakg

Despite the advanced line of "indicate only if theres someone to indicate to", it's still possible to give the same care to your surroundings and indicate anyway.

Not all of the advanced driving techniques I agree with.

CHR15

tomstickland wrote: »

Your assertion that people who follow the correct procedure .

It's not, it is your personal interpretation of a regulation which is not specifically covered in the highway code.

Imagine the spot of paint isn't there and it is a simple road, do you continue to indicate left when passing a junction on your right??

The consideration to other road users is exactly the same in this instance. You are informing people you are NOT going to turn.

What about coming from the top downwards. You do not indicate left because you are going straight on (I think we all agree on that).

Are you suggesting as soon as you pass the left junction you start to indicate left (bear in mind by the time you have passed the junction your bonnet is already half way out of the exit.

Whilst I agree indicating does not adversely affect any other road users, it is simply daft to indicate your intention NOT to turn, as in this case (a MINI-roundabout, not a roundabout.)

Despite this tide of opposition, the overwhelming majority of sensible, experienced road users do NOT indicate to go straight over a mini roundabout.

My guess is that most of you don't either, despite the posts to the contrary.

Can I throw the towel in twice??

cyclonebri1

Jakg wrote: »

Despite the advanced line of "indicate only if theres someone to indicate to", it's still possible to give the same care to your surroundings and indicate anyway.

Not all of the advanced driving techniques I agree with.

I too indicate every time, I want to retain that habit as it is oh so easy to get lazy, and then, ooooops.;)


Ask yourself this;

Is there a blind spot in the vehicle you drive?, if yes signal, if no, methinks you are deluding yourself.:T

cyclonebri1

CHR15 wrote: »

It's not, it is your personal interpretation of a regulation which is not specifically covered in the highway code.

Imagine the spot of paint isn't there and it is a simple road, do you continue to indicate left when passing a junction on your right??

The consideration to other road users is exactly the same in this instance. You are informing people you are NOT going to turn.

What about coming from the top downwards. You do not indicate left because you are going straight on (I think we all agree on that).

Are you suggesting as soon as you pass the left junction you start to indicate left (bear in mind by the time you have passed the junction your bonnet is already half way out of the exit.

Whilst I agree indicating does not adversely affect any other road users, it is simply daft to indicate your intention NOT to turn, as in this case (a MINI-roundabout, not a roundabout.)

Despite this tide of opposition, the overwhelming majority of sensible, experienced road users do NOT indicate to go straight over a mini roundabout.

My guess is that most of you don't either, despite the posts to the contrary.

Can I throw the towel in twice??

You might just have to,

If as in the example pictured in this thread, (and yes I missed it earlier), there is a benefit to other traffic by giving a non RH turn signal, then it is considerate to do that. I don't see a problem, only inconsiderate drivers, wheres shruggy gone?

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CHR15 wrote: »

Imagine the spot of paint isn't there and it is a simple road, do you continue to indicate left when passing a junction on your right??

But it is there, that makes it a roundabout, so different rules apply.

Get some refresher driving lessons or take an IAM test, then you will perhaps learn what is correct instead of putting your own angle on the Highway Code.

Apples2

Inactive wrote: »

, then you will perhaps learn what is correct instead of putting your own angle on the Highway Code.

Isn't that what you have done?

Happy for you to show a link to the highway code showing a mini roundabout in the normal T shape as is being discussed.

Substantiate your claim.

skiddlydiddly

JoolzS wrote: »

I would definitely indicate left on this roundabout to show any other drivers that I am taking the first exit.

If I didn't indicate then someone approaching from the opposite direction can't know whether I am intending to go straight on, or if I'm one of those people who doesn't indicate and may be turning right.

I indicate all the time whether or not there is any other traffic or pedestrian around. It's just easier to have indicating as a normal part of driving - it was how I was taught to drive.

I live near a roundabout with a very similar layout, and it is incredibly annoying to sit there while three cars go straight ahead without indicating, but being unable to enter the roundabout in case they are turning right without indicating.

Julie

It can actually requires more thought and awereness to not indicate in some instances as some people do take the easy way and just indicate regardless, showing a lack of awarenes of whats going on around them.An easy trap to fall into in the comfort of a modern car.

As some in this thread are saying, indicate if it will benefit another road user, if it won't then don't.
As for refresher lessons I had a 2 week(10 full days) advanced driving course being instructed by and ex-traffic officer followed by an advanced test taken by a serving traffic officer and we were told to drive exactly like this.
Bear in mind once you have been driving a while you are expected to have a higher skill level than a learner driver and be able to exercse a greater degree of thought and control, not just drive around with blinkers on

tomstickland

CHR15 wrote: »

Imagine the spot of paint isn't there and it is a simple road, do you continue to indicate left when passing a junction on your right??

Not on a simple junction, because then it's not a roundabout. In which case there will be white lines to show which route is the main route and which route is the turning.

Are you suggesting as soon as you pass the left junction you start to indicate left (bear in mind by the time you have passed the junction your bonnet is already half way out of the exit.

Yes.

Whilst I agree indicating does not adversely affect any other road users, it is simply daft to indicate your intention NOT to turn, as in this case (a MINI-roundabout, not a roundabout.)

A mini roundabout is still a roundabout.

Despite this tide of opposition, the overwhelming majority of sensible, experienced road users do NOT indicate to go straight over a mini roundabout.

The overwhelming majority of drivers are not sensible. Less than 30% bother to indicate at all on any roundabout.

As a few other people have said, if you are approaching a roundabout and a car coming the other way indicates left to show that they are leaving the roundabout that then allows you to enter.

You might argue that they would have been indicating right if they were coming round the roundabout. However a lot of people don't bother indicating at all, so you can't rely on that. If they are indicating left you can be pretty sure that they will be leaving.

It's not daft, apart from appearing to stretch a concept to it's limit.

I mean, I can get over it if someone doesn't bother indicating like that on a mini roundabout because it does involve a bit of taking something ad absurdum. However, I wouldn't describe someone doing so as "daft". They are making the effort to signal, which immediately puts them in the minority who can see why indicating helps keep things moving.

Jakg

skiddlydiddly wrote: »

It can actually requires more thought and awereness to not indicate in some instances as some people do take the easy way and just indicate regardless, showing a lack of awarenes of whats going on around them.An easy trap to fall into in the comfort of a modern car.

As some in this thread are saying, indicate if it will benefit another road user, if it won't then don't.
As for refresher lessons I had a 2 week(10 full days) advanced driving course being instructed by and ex-traffic officer followed by an advanced test taken by a serving traffic officer and we were told to drive exactly like this.
Bear in mind once you have been driving a while you are expected to have a higher skill level than a learner driver and be able to exercse a greater degree of thought and control, not just drive around with blinkers on

However, it's possible to put exactly the same observation in... and then indicate anyway. Theres no disadvantage to (correct) indication, IAM etc teach this to make sure that you will ALWAYS observe whats around and where they will be going, ever time.

Just because the IAM etc recommend it, doesn't always mean I think it's correct - i.e. engine braking / heel-toeing.

FTR no, I haven't done any "advanced" driver training over pass plus (but i'd like to when i'm not quite so poor...)