Weezl and friends Phase 2 -giving it a whirl for Shirl! Testing meal plan for a month

weezl74

mangojoesno1fan wrote: »

Weezl,

Thanx so much for that! I have tried to do my own homework but I have struggled and don't wish to argue and then fall flat on my face, if you get my drift.
Thanx again:j

awww bless you!

Get him to get an MSE account and come on here!

Amino-acid-gate anyone,.... anyone?

Allegra

I only became aware of the thighs issue when someone told me how disgustingly fat I was because my thighs met I was size 8 at the time.

So yes, I very much agree with you, Susan - people have absolutely no right to criticise another's body shape.

I am still fascinated by your view that the media ostracise thin people - I have always believed it was otherwise, and that anyone who was not very thin was under constant attack. Perhaps the picture is, after all, more balanced (or unbalanced, bearing in mind we are talking about attacks, not positive promotion) than either of us thought !

taka

I'm classed as morbidly obese so by the sounds of it I am at the other end of the scale to you Susan. I have a different viewpoint to you about it I think... (And this is not critisism of you in any way)

I sometimes get really hacked off by magazines, tv and similar all saying thin is beautiful all the time. I've cetrainly not noticed any "big is beautiful" media stuff recently... if ever! I wish there was a bit more size related balance sometimes! From my viewpoint the media is obsessed by slimness and that if you are overweight or even a normal weight you are not slim enough... Open any magazine for example it will be filled by slim models/celebrities etc with sometimes scathing attacks if they have put on a few pounds! Most TV presenters are lower than the UK average too! Don't get me started on film stars...

I have strangers hurl abuse at me in the street/shops on a horribly regular basis simply because I am the size I am. Yesterday for example someone (who wasn't watching where they were going as they were texting walking along the street) bumped into me and started swearing "what did you do that for you f***ing lazy fat c***"! If I had a £ for everyone who has called me a fat cow (or much worse) to my face I'd be a millionaire several times over. In many situations my size means I somehow become completely invisible! At times I get completely ignored in shops, pubs etc or people act as if I am thick and lazy simply because of my size.

I am well aware that being my size is very unhealthy and I am trying to do something about it (lost 20 odd lbs since the start of May by healthy eating and exercise :j) but I really don't need as much negetivity about the way I look as I get sometimes. It is really unpleasant - I got here by years of an eating disorder, not by choice.

I hope I'm not speaking out of line, Susan, by saying this... just giving my perspective. I think there should be some middle ground... people come in a million and one sizes and shapes and all should be appreciated just the same. Sadly I'm not sure that will ever happen... Its the person inside that body that is important not what they look like...

I should have some time over the weekend to help with googling etc Weezl.

weezl74

well I feel very sad that the lovely taka, allegra, and susan have all been made to feel bad about bodies


Oh for a non-judgemental world to live in!

Mango joe do you skype?

Auditbabe I haven't managed to find you or cazzdevil yet

weezl74

our bodies are a thing that carries around our essential us-ness, our soul (or whathaveyou).

No point having a 'stunning' piece of wrapping paper around a useless present for christmas! Instead I feel we all work on having shiny souls

This is what I tell myself anyway

Cos When I'm 87 It'll be no matter to me I'm sure that my thighs meet in the middle or otherwise.

(won't be able to tell anyway, cos my boobs'll be in the way )

SusanC_2

taka wrote: »

I sometimes get really hacked off by magazines, tv and similar all saying thin is beautiful all the time. I've cetrainly not noticed any "big is beautiful" media stuff recently... if ever! I wish there was a bit more size related balance sometimes! From my viewpoint the media is obsessed by slimness and that if you are overweight or even a normal weight you are not slim enough... Open any magazine for example it will be filled by slim models/celebrities etc with sometimes scathing attacks if they have put on a few pounds! Most TV presenters are lower than the UK average too! Don't get me started on film stars...

I can't say I've seen much stuff recently but that's because I don't read the kind of things it would come up in very much these days. I wonder also if we are more sensitive and more likely to notice the things which we perceive as criticisms of ourselves than the things which are not? I can't say I've particularly noticed film stars and presenters being below average size but I don't really pay a great deal of attention to how people look and their size so would tend not to notice that kind of thing so I can believe that what you say is true.

taka wrote: »

I have strangers hurl abuse at me in the street/shops on a horribly regular basis simply because I am the size I am. Yesterday for example someone (who wasn't watching where they were going as they were texting walking along the street) bumped into me and started swearing "what did you do that for you f***ing lazy fat c***"! If I had a £ for everyone who has called me a fat cow (or much worse) to my face I'd be a millionaire several times over. In many situations my size means I somehow become completely invisible! At times I get completely ignored in shops, pubs etc or people act as if I am thick and lazy simply because of my size.

That is awful and I have to confess that I have never had random strangers be nasty to me about my size - it was only other people my age who knew me when I was school age. As someone who did not choose to at a particular end of the spectrum I would never make assumptions as to the reasons why someone was at the other end and even if it was through choice it is not my place to criticise or judge them for it.

taka wrote: »

I hope I'm not speaking out of line, Susan, by saying this... just giving my perspective. I think there should be some middle ground... people come in a million and one sizes and shapes and all should be appreciated just the same. Sadly I'm not sure that will ever happen... Its the person inside that body that is important not what they look like...

Not at all - I agree with you. In some ways that is one benefit of the internet - you get to know people for who they are without any preconceptions based on the way they look etc. getting in the way.

SusanC_2

weezl74 wrote: »

our bodies are a thing that carries around our essential us-ness, our soul (or whathaveyou).

No point having a 'stunning' piece of wrapping paper around a useless present for christmas! Instead I feel we all work on having shiny souls

This is what I tell myself anyway

Have I ever told you you're class.

Sian_the_Green

Lol, at Weezl, see, funny, very funny.

It's a strange world that makes everyone feel bad about themselves in order to make you want to go to extremes to be thinner/fatter/more curvaceous/less curvaceous... In the same way it tries to make us buy all this other stuff too, makes me rather sad that we believe it too. Taka, I think it is disgraceful people think they can say things like that, do you have a smart retort for them? And Susan, I understand what you mean, magazines go from one extreme to another in berating stars for being 'too thin' (Nicole Ritchie) and then saying how they have piled on the pounds (Britney etc). I am going for the Nigella approach, enjoy your food and recognise that most of us can't eat a lot of cake and be a skinny person! I think that blog is quite tongue in cheek and I have had a look through other pages and she is all about celebrating ordinary women, I have a feeling the thigh comment was only a throw away one, she seems to be into cooking well, exercise, good friends and a good dose or randomness, her post on cooking to impress boys is me to a t, though given that I am single I am not sure I am doing it right

Weezl, can I have my secret mission now? I'm not good at patience

hornetgirl

I read the bikini thing in the same way as Sian did, as being tongue in cheek. I sincerely hope I didn't offend anyone by mentioning it, that absolutely wasn't my intention. And Taka, I'm disgusted that people could be so rude to you.

Weezl, am happy to do typo-spotting over the next few days if required.

weezl74

Sian_the_Green wrote: »

Weezl, can I have my secret mission now? I'm not good at patience

I posted a linkie in the skype chat box All is revealed-I hope!