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Weezl and friends Phase 2 -giving it a whirl for Shirl! Testing meal plan for a month

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  • weezl74
    weezl74 Posts: 8,701 Forumite
    aless02 wrote: »
    weezl, will measure for u in a tic. Also, there's someone on the PT asking about having babies close together :)


    I have shared a little of my weezl wisdom ;)

    :hello:Jonathan 'Fergie' Fergus William, born 05/03/09, 7lb 4.4oz:hello:
    :)Benjamin 'Kezzie' Kester Jacob, born 18/03/10, 7lb 5oz:)
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  • weezl74
    weezl74 Posts: 8,701 Forumite
    Aha! I think I have found a way to get my son to eat porridge.......turn it into flapjacks!

    I have just put a test batch in the oven using a the porridge recipe scaled down to one portion. Had to add a little extra oil. Fingers crossed :j
    fab! look forward to hearing about that (pinkhayley:A can this please go in the alternatives article?)

    :hello:Jonathan 'Fergie' Fergus William, born 05/03/09, 7lb 4.4oz:hello:
    :)Benjamin 'Kezzie' Kester Jacob, born 18/03/10, 7lb 5oz:)
    cash neutral gifts 2011, value of purchased gifts/actual paid/amount earnt to cover it £67/£3.60/£0
    january grocery challenge, feed 4 of us for £40
  • weezl74
    weezl74 Posts: 8,701 Forumite
    oooh oooooh a bit of a boost from google analytics:











    :hello:Jonathan 'Fergie' Fergus William, born 05/03/09, 7lb 4.4oz:hello:
    :)Benjamin 'Kezzie' Kester Jacob, born 18/03/10, 7lb 5oz:)
    cash neutral gifts 2011, value of purchased gifts/actual paid/amount earnt to cover it £67/£3.60/£0
    january grocery challenge, feed 4 of us for £40
  • mr_arty
    mr_arty Posts: 7 Forumite
    Hi hopefully you already know who I am from my name!

    From what ive been told and read Im thinking you want a program that basically makes a months food plan from a few inputs of the users choice like seasonal veg or something. Am I right here?

    Way I see this to be done is in two parts firstly we need a database which will contain every recipe its ingredients and nutrition info and cost of course! From this we will select the recipes we want using the user inputs. Then the program will build the months recipes around this.

    You were asking about what I can do - I dont actually know any SQL at the moment but im going to learn it and have freinds who know it. Ive had a brief look at it and I dont think it will take more than a few hours to get a hang of. other than that I mainly program in python which is what ill probably write this in.
  • weezl74 wrote: »
    fab! look forward to hearing about that (pinkhayley:A can this please go in the alternatives article?)

    Of course :)

    Brokebuthappy- If it works can you please let us have the recipe that you used so I can pop it into the article? :A Thank you.
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  • weezl74
    weezl74 Posts: 8,701 Forumite
    mr_arty wrote: »
    Hi hopefully you already know who I am from my name!

    From what ive been told and read Im thinking you want a program that basically makes a months food plan from a few inputs of the users choice like seasonal veg or something. Am I right here?

    Way I see this to be done is in two parts firstly we need a database which will contain every recipe its ingredients and nutrition info and cost of course! From this we will select the recipes we want using the user inputs. Then the program will build the months recipes around this.

    You were asking about what I can do - I dont actually know any SQL at the moment but im going to learn it and have freinds who know it. Ive had a brief look at it and I dont think it will take more than a few hours to get a hang of. other than that I mainly program in python which is what ill probably write this in.
    hello and welcome to excellent bread baking mr Arty!

    I don't think the program will be able to build recipes, but could build a shopping list and suggest recipes which would use all or most of the ingredients if you see what I mean?

    This is more because I'm not sure the creation of a recipe could be distilled into an exact set of formulae and 'taught' to the computer (ie how will it ever know what tastes nice and needs a touch of tomato puree?:D)

    so I was envisaging a static list of ingredients satisfying 60ish% of nutritional needs very cheaply, with some user defined (from a constrained list) additional top up items 'pick 5 vegetables from this list'.

    Programme can then suggest the staples (Calculating that since this family is very active and all are 6 foot 3 they need 13 loaves of bread each)

    And point to recipe ideas for the overspill ingredients, ( turn 300g of any veg into a soup!) but not an exact recipe IYSWIM?

    Is any of this making any sense so far?

    Does that fit in any way with how you saw
    it?

    :hello:Jonathan 'Fergie' Fergus William, born 05/03/09, 7lb 4.4oz:hello:
    :)Benjamin 'Kezzie' Kester Jacob, born 18/03/10, 7lb 5oz:)
    cash neutral gifts 2011, value of purchased gifts/actual paid/amount earnt to cover it £67/£3.60/£0
    january grocery challenge, feed 4 of us for £40
  • hornetgirl
    hornetgirl Posts: 6,155 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker Mortgage-free Glee!
    My goodness this thread moves fast. I've not been around much for a couple of days and there's been loads to catch up on.
    I hope you're feeling less down now Weezl. Lots of people type stuff just because they like to be controversial. Others type without really thinking and of course as we all know, on a forum you can't hear voice tone or see facial expressions etc. I remember many years ago studying something about communication and the fact that every message has three possible interpretations - the one you think you are giving, the one you are actually giving and the one the recipient gets. Forums (fora?) only make this worse.
    Nothing very useful to add at the moment, except to say that we're having risi e bisi tonight. Oh and my new food processor has arrived, so I'm looking forward to trying some of the things that need a bit of a blitz now. I think hummus will be first on the list.
  • hornetgirl
    hornetgirl Posts: 6,155 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker Mortgage-free Glee!
    Oh, another thing I forgot to say, which might be useful for the grow your own bit if Shirley decides to give this a go - don't throw away spring onion thinnings. They make a lovely addition to salad leaves, and can also be chopped and put into a (Croatian) potato salad.
  • weezl74
    weezl74 Posts: 8,701 Forumite
    PS Mr Arty:

    user enters height, weight and average activity level

    user enters some choices of ingredients

    user enters a time period (feed me for a week/fortnight/month)

    our programme generates a shopping list of foods which meet the full energy and nutrient criteria for the family makes some definate stipulations (you need to make 40 loaves of bread) and some suggestions: 'with the following you could make veggie burgers: onion carrot, chickpeas, oil, flour, seasonings'


    sorry to not have a full spec for you to look at yet, my dad and I are drafting it, but have had to put it onto a back burner til monday to finish our next CFR rollout :)

    oh and PS a massive thank you for being willing to offer your skills :D

    :hello:Jonathan 'Fergie' Fergus William, born 05/03/09, 7lb 4.4oz:hello:
    :)Benjamin 'Kezzie' Kester Jacob, born 18/03/10, 7lb 5oz:)
    cash neutral gifts 2011, value of purchased gifts/actual paid/amount earnt to cover it £67/£3.60/£0
    january grocery challenge, feed 4 of us for £40
  • mr_arty
    mr_arty Posts: 7 Forumite
    haha sorry dont think I was too clear on my description maybe an example will help what I mean then you can tell me what you think should be different.

    Imagine a very simplified family who only eat say red pepper omelette, egg and chips and ...something made of potato and pepper. Ie they only have 3 different ingredients and 3 recipes. What I imagine the program to do is to optimise their weeks meals so that to ensure they get their nutrients yet minimise their costs as well while also keeping the diet varied.

    Does this make it more clear basically it should do what you guys did with spread sheets basically to stop you having to do all that tweeking on the plan as that must of taken quite some time
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