Weezl and friends Phase 2 -giving it a whirl for Shirl! Testing meal plan for a month

Allegra

She's on FB to talk to him, and that's fine. She wants contact, and that's the sort of contact I'm comfortable with between them. And yeah, I have to steer away from DD's FB for that reasons, but she knows that and is fine with it

Anyway, thanks for your help, guys. Re blocking him from CFR, that's up to Aless, and I would recommend keeping an eye on him, based on previous experience, but as long as he behaves himself and sticks to commenting about recipes... I bear him no malice, there is no reason why he shouldn't benefit from the frugal recipes - I just don't want him anywhere near me, is all.

artybear

Allegra wrote: »

She's on FB to talk to him, and that's fine. She wants contact, and that's the sort of contact I'm comfortable with between them. And yeah, I have to steer away from DD's FB for that reasons, but she knows that and is fine with it

Anyway, thanks for your help, guys. Re blocking him from CFR, that's up to Aless, and I would recommend keeping an eye on him, based on previous experience, but as long as he behaves himself and sticks to commenting about recipes... I bear him no malice, there is no reason why he shouldn't benefit from the frugal recipes - I just don't want him anywhere near me, is all.

Oh good-I wasnt sure of the relationship between them

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p.s Weezl we need some more photos of Kester/Fergusxxxx

HowlinWolf

I'm afraid I have still not caught up with the thread. I promise I will make a concerted effort this week. I have really missed the recipe testing and shirley tip writing.

morag1202

I think you asked if someone could look at the Nutrition FAQ's? well, is this any better?

and should there be a question about omega 3?




Frequently asked nutrition questions:

can you loose these horrid pills and substitute the Eatwell Plate?
So who is the average family you’ve designed this for?

We chose a family of four (2 adults and two teenage children), and assumed they were average heights and the right weight for their height, we assumed they did a moderate amount of exercise each day. Since we have based the planner on averages, you may find that you need to add more calories into the planner if you are very tall, heavier than average or if you do a great deal of sport, or subtract them by eating smaller portions or less snacks if your family are smaller or more sedentary than average or wish to loose weight.

Does the planner contain enough calcium?

We have assumed an average daily need of 1,000 mg [STRIKE]daily[/STRIKE], which our research showed had general consensus amongst health care professionals as being sufficient for 97% of individuals.

Really? I can only see a block of cheese and a drop of milk, but it’s a whole month!

We couldn’t afford to meet your whole family’s calcium need using these more expensive foods, but the calcium is there. [STRIKE]don’t worry! For example,[/STRIKE] The instant oat cereal used in several of our recipes contains 1330 mg of calcium per 100g, whereas cheese contains just 739mg per 100g.

Does it contain my 5 a day?

Our monthly meal planner contains 680 fruit and vegetable portions, and thus exceeds the government recommended 5 a day.

Where? I can only see a few fresh carrots!

Although this plan provides no fresh fruit to eat, your 5 a day are contained within the meals and snacks. 32% of the fruit and vegetable portions in our meal planner are fresh.[STRIKE]Ah, please don’t be fooled into thinking that for your 5 a day, fresh is best! There are a few reasons why tinned, dried and frozen foods are just as good if not better than fresh ones.[/STRIKE] the rest comes from the dried, tinned and frozen ingredients. In dried fruit and vegetables the goodness is condensed, so much so that we need even fewer of these to count as a portion! Frozen and canned foods have the advantage of being picked and packed the same day. [STRIKE]With fresh foods this isn’t the case. In the winter a large proportion of the potatoes eaten in the UK have taken 2-3 weeks to reach the supermarket shelves, coming from Egypt.[/STRIKE] There is some evidence too that the way vegetables are canned can even increase their health giving benefits, with canned tomatoes being richer in antioxidants than their fresh counterparts, for example.[STRIKE] 32% of the fruit and vegetable portions in our meal planner are fresh.[/STRIKE]
Is there enough fat / energy? Growing children need fat!

[STRIKE]Absolutely![/STRIKE] We have provided 32% of the calorie intake through fat, in keeping with current guidelines that fat should account for 20-35% of our daily intake. The plan is low on the harmful transfats and high on the good fats. We’ve also ensured that there’s enough energy to keep each member of your family going all day (between 2,000 and 3,000 calories per day each depending on gender and age).

So are we filling up on cheap white bread?

The bread is cheap, because it is homemade, we do not however feel this is an unhealthy choice, [STRIKE]since[/STRIKE] because white flour contains more calcium than brown/wholemeal flour and we were happy to choose it since there is sufficient fibre in the meal planner. By having homemade bread, we are also ensuring the bread doesn’t contain harmful additives.




So are you nutrition experts?



No, but we take a great deal of care to ensure our recipes and meal planners meet all government recommended standards for nutrition. We have extensively researched the month’s shopping list. None of our team are dietitians and we do not make any claims that we are giving you medical or dietary advice, but what we can say is that we have followed the government guidelines on nutrition, which we know have taken account of health care professionals advice and the latest research.

Of course no recipe website will have analysed each micro nutrient eaten at every meal, but we are currently happy that the plan as a whole [STRIKE]with what [/STRIKE] which we are offering to families [STRIKE]in financial difficulty[/STRIKE] who want to greatly reduce their food costs, is a healthy one. Our team are always looking at research evidence though, and you are very welcome to send us links to professional journals if you are aware of new research which we have not yet had a chance to look at.

aless02

Allegra - sorry I only just now saw the discussion about Facebook. I will delete/block people if they post off-topic or abusive messages, definitely, so don't worry about that. Since you said you're okay if he stays on-topic, then I'll leave it if that's still okay with you?

weezl, I get what you're saying. I was still remembering when the recipe was the regular pizza dough sans marmite & oats, so that's why. Your reason is more sound, as long as the non-Kitty-who-justs-wants-the-odd-recipe is decent at maths . I still think it's the tiniest bit confusing but not sure what the best way forward is. I just don't like the "1kg of pizza dough" measurement, I suppose and my brain would work better with "1/3 of pizza dough recipe" better...but I may be the only one!! I hope that makes sense, DH has plied me with Pimms this evening so brain may not be 100% fuzz-free

artybear

As I am allowed to be off topic:D

I vaguely remember some fans of Les Mis on this thread-I normally love musicals like Hairspray/Joseph/The Lion King but I sooooo Love the song 'I dreamed a dream' and really want to see it live. Do any of you think it is worth it? One to recommended?

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shanks77

I havent seen it myself but my mum saw it in Broadway a few years ago and thought it was really good. Not a fan of musicals myself but it would prob be worth going to if you like that kind of thing.

r.a.i.n.b.o.w

morag1202 wrote: »

"Is there enough fat / energy? Growing children need fat!"

I honestly don't think the average Shirley would know that "Growing children need fat" - over the last 30-40 years, fat has been seen as THE ENEMY, and is often confused with JUNK FOOD. Likewise cholesterol - we NEED cholesterol to be healthy (it's only when levels of the "bad" cholesterol in the body are high that it can cause problems), yet cholesterol is generally seen as BAD. (An aside...I can eat 6 eggs (sometimes more!) in a day - my mother freaked when I told her that, because they're SO HIGH in CHOLESTEROL! BAD, BAD! But she doesn't understand that I CAN eat 6 eggs in a day because I don't have a cholesterol problem!)

You've only got to watch programmes about overweight children to see that most of the parents think that because they're giving the children huge bowls of pasta and sauce, it must be healthier than stir fried chicken. (for example)

So I would remove "Growing children need fat" from the question, and let the answer speak for itself.



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r.a.i.n.b.o.w

artybear wrote: »

As I am allowed to be off topic:D

I vaguely remember some fans of Les Mis on this thread-I normally love musicals like Hairspray/Joseph/The Lion King but I sooooo Love the song 'I dreamed a dream' and really want to see it live. Do any of you think it is worth it? One to recommended?

XXXX

I haven't seen it, but it's the only one I want to see

I have the "original cast" recording, it's excellent!

aless02

I saw Les Mis when I was 16 and remember it being good even then...does that help? :rotfl: