Money Moral Dilemma: Should Janet pay John’s tip?

PoorPennilessMe

Myrtle77 wrote: »

Not entirely sarcastic, no. Clearly your experiences are different to mine - which is possibly a generational thing. As a woman in my early thirties - men don't pay for anything anymore.

I'm more than happy to pay my half, sadly, most men of my generation aren't. I'll try not to get into a rant about it though!

As for your comments on feminism earlier - bless, you gave me a chuckle anyway.

Glad I made you chuckle...

But a 'generational thing'? I am in my thirties too!!! How old did you think I was? Second thoughts - don't answer that... Lol

PoorPennilessMe

gjohnson wrote: »

Is it the guy who generously rounds his tip up to the nearest pound?

Come on, we all know the type. They are the sort of people who traipse through life as miserable as sin, and leave millions to a cats home in their will. Their lives are entirely consumed with how little they can get away with spending. They are the reason that pound stores exist. Nothing in them is worth £1, but they appeal to people who think they are getting a bargain because they can buy 20 bags of crisps for £1.

Well considering thats pretty much how I tip, I can assure you that I don't fit into that 'type'. I am not miserable, I'm not consumed by getting away with spending as little as possible, and I don't shop in pound stores.

Oh yes, and I don't rant about the way others tip...

:idea: Hey - maybe we aren't all the same after all!!! Lol

bells_on_it

I do'nt think she should, it may be an oversight on his behalf but since he's paid for the meal and wants to treat her and he might be embarrassed which could make things weird. i'd just leave it, on the next date if it happens again then maybe tip or offer to tip or even split the bill and discuss how much to tip but not the first instance not when he's being so generous and trying to treat her

MissLead

blued wrote: »

When I tip, I tip for service, not the chef or the person working behind the bar etc. Chefs get paid a lot more than waiting staff and it annoys me to think that my tip could go to anyone other than the person who provided good service at my table.

And what about the kitchen porters, trainee chefs and the cleaners? Do you tip them? They are almost certainly on a lower hourly rate than servers! Do you tip the wine waiter or bar staff in restaurants?

gjohnson

PoorPennilessMe wrote: »

Well considering thats pretty much how I tip, I can assure you that I don't fit into that 'type'. I am not miserable, I'm not consumed by getting away with spending as little as possible, and I don't shop in pound stores.

And no-one buys you flowers.

Maybe if you were more generous to others, they wodul be inclined to be a little more generous to you???

Reap as you sow.

bells_on_it

Another thing about tipping i hate doing it on the machine - always wonder if its gonna get to the right person.

Tipping is personal preference, there is no obligation, i tip if i have a good meal and had good service, if the meal was bad and service poor (like my experience in one restaurant on my honeymoon in caribbean) i would certainly not tip, and if they could even be bothered to ask how my meal was (as this one place didn't care to ask) then i would tell them it was fine or ok - rather than create a fuss and spoil my evening more i would hope that no tip and lack of enthusiasm from myself would indicate i wasn't happy and they'd try harder for the next time. With this in mind wherever I go I will always be polite, friendly and smile at the person who is serving me whatever the industry i treat them as I like to be treated by others and when people are being served by me again i'm polite and friendly - if the person serving me couldn't be friendly and polite back that to me is bad and doesn't deserve a tip - to be honest if i'm having bad day smiling and being friendly to others actually lifts my mood

When I do tip - i certainly do'nt do it via the machine even if i pay by card i will always leave cash on the table and most often leave it on my way out

PoorPennilessMe

gjohnson wrote: »

And no-one buys you flowers.

Maybe if you were more generous to others, they wodul be inclined to be a little more generous to you???

Reap as you sow.

Again with the assumptions...

Amongst those who know me, I am known as being generous to a fault. I just happen to disagree with overly tipping when people are being paid to do a job. If they are unhappy with how much they get paid, then perhaps they should leave the job and look for something else. I'm sure in the current climate there are plenty of people who would be glad of it...

My entire point with you is that you should not make general assumptions about who somebody is, from such a small insight like how they tip, where they shop, etc. All I'm saying is that it is unfair... I'm sure if I said 'people like you tend not to take baths very often', you would rightly be annoyed. Just think before doing it to others please?

gjohnson

PoorPennilessMe wrote: »

Again with the assumptions...

My entire point with you is that you should not make general assumptions about who somebody is, from such a small insight like how they tip, where they shop, etc. All I'm saying is that it is unfair... I'm sure if I said 'people like you tend not to take baths very often', you would rightly be annoyed. Just think before doing it to others please?

Fair point. I was being presumptious. I assumed that people who were miserly with tips were probably not very generous by nature. That was wrong of me and I apologise.

You are quite right. Just because someone chooses not to leave a tip in a restaurant does not make them tight. Just someone I wouldn't want to have dinner with.

vicky7177

Maybe John doesn't believe in tipping.. many people don't, myself included. For this reason I think she should not mention the tip until they have left the restaurant.

mrbrightside842

blued wrote: »

When I tip, I tip for service, not the chef or the person working behind the bar etc. Chefs get paid a lot more than waiting staff and it annoys me to think that my tip could go to anyone other than the person who provided good service at my table.

When I go for a meal, the food is the most important aspect, which the chefs have cooked, and probably spent years training for. I'm not so fussed about the service, as long as it's not terrible. I don't want over friendly or talkative people, as I've come out with the people I'm eating with for a conversation. When I tip, it's because there's been an all round good service, the food being the most important thing, and so the tip should be shared between all of them.