Money Moral Dilemma: Should Janet pay John’s tip?

Fairnessfirst

I hope everybody who says that they always tip is fair about it and that they tip all people In the same manner.

I'm my years of working as A supermarket cashier I have done many things that I'd consider to be extra service to the customer e.g packing bags, entertaining kids, fetcing items which customers have fogotten, taking heavy items to peoples cars or to taxi. But I have never once been given a tip.

people on here seem to think that waiting staff should be tipped because they Give service with a smile, and a have been critising others for not tipping. I think these people tips because society says they should tip. they dnt seem to have the brains to question it.

I urge you to think before you tip in a resturant-- would I have tipped the person in a fast food place for the service I just received.
. Would I have tipped the person in a shop for the service I just received.

These workers are mostly paid at the same level as waitingstaff but yet we dnt tip them, and do tip waiting staff. Why is this!!! WHY

nolongerindenial

I guess im john.....

One of my big weaknesses in life in indian cuisine, we used to goto our local restaurant every weak for a meal, and have got to know the staff there quite well and have a laugh whenever I am there, now we usually get a takeaway from there and have the very occasional meal there (about twice a year) - I never leave a tip with a takeaway meal even though they always have a laugh and joke with me - and usually end up getting freebies from them (which are of course built into the price of the food). I only ever leave a tip with a sit down meal, and then it is only run it up to the next £1.

My Wife never complains or offers to pay the bill

AliSingle

I think that if Janet feels she wants to leave a tip, she has every right to do that - she's entitled to her opinion just as much as John is. She could just leave some cash on the table as she leaves so as not to offend John, or she could say something like suggested in the first comment.
I usually tip, except in exceptional circumstances - one example being an Indian restaurant - a male friend and I went for a meal and I was paying - throughout the meal all questions were to my friend, and the waiter wouldn't even look at me. It got to the bill and I put my card on the table, in front of me. The waiter got the machine, put my card in it and pointed the machine to my friend opposite. He said "actually it's the ladies card" and the waiter just dumped the machine on the table - NOT good service if you ask me, and we've never gone back since.
I have been out with friends who never tip, and I must admit I feel awkward about this at times, especially as it often happens when we go to the same places. What I find interesting is the friends who earn far more than I do seem to be the ones who begrudge the tips over the ones who earn less.
Re. the till people who don't get tips - I worked for Waitrose when I was a student. We weren't allowed to accept tips, but we got other benefits - 12% off groceries and JL products and not to mention the bonus every year. I understand the other supermarkets offer the same idea, except the bonus.

blued

Paul_Herring wrote: »

Really? So you don't consider other serving staff who may have been to your table, or the chef's in the kitchen, who actually produced your food, worthy of tipping?

Nice to know.

(Or do you insist on visiting the kitchens to ensure that they get their share?)

When I tip, I tip for service, not the chef or the person working behind the bar etc. Chefs get paid a lot more than waiting staff and it annoys me to think that my tip could go to anyone other than the person who provided good service at my table.

PoorPennilessMe

Myrtle77 wrote: »

This could only ever be a hypothetical situation. Men just don't pay for dinner anymore!!

I can only assume that you are being sarcastic... As I said previously on this thread, women want all the equal rights going, but still expect men to pay for meals, drinks, etc on dates! Hardly fair in my opinion.... :think:

And I still haven't had any flowers

gjohnson

nolongerindenial wrote: »

I only ever leave a tip with a sit down meal, and then it is only run it up to the next £1.

If I worked in the restaurant you dined in, and you offered such a miserly tip, I'm pretty sure I would decline your pathetic offer. Either that or I would always ensure your bill was £XX.01, just to annoy you so you alwasy had to "tip" £0.99.

I bet you're the sort of person who goes out for a meal with friends, and takes a calculator with them to work out to the last penny their precise contribution to the bill. I can see you now at the end of a meal "Well actually, I only had 2 glasses of wine from the 3 bottles we had, so I'm only contributing one-ninth of the cost of the wine. And my starter was only £3.95, but yours was £6.95 so you owe £3 more than me -why should I subsidise your meal."

I genuinely feel sorry for such misers. Seriously. You should lighten up. You might find that you enjoy life a bit more...

PoorPennilessMe

gjohnson wrote: »

If I worked in the restaurant you dined in, and you offered such a miserly tip, I'm pretty sure I would decline your pathetic offer. Either that or I would always ensure your bill was £XX.01, just to annoy you so you alwasy had to "tip" £0.99.

I bet you're the sort of person who goes out for a meal with friends, and takes a calculator with them to work out to the last penny their precise contribution to the bill. I can see you now at the end of a meal "Well actually, I only had 2 glasses of wine from the 3 bottles we had, so I'm only contributing one-ninth of the cost of the wine. And my starter was only £3.95, but yours was £6.95 so you owe £3 more than me -why should I subsidise your meal."

I genuinely feel sorry for such misers. Seriously. You should lighten up. You might find that you enjoy life a bit more...

Wow! Bitter much? I think your comments are a bit harsh... Who needs to lighten up?

Myrtle77

PoorPennilessMe wrote: »

I can only assume that you are being sarcastic... As I said previously on this thread, women want all the equal rights going, but still expect men to pay for meals, drinks, etc on dates! Hardly fair in my opinion.... :think:

And I still haven't had any flowers

Not entirely sarcastic, no. Clearly your experiences are different to mine - which is possibly a generational thing. As a woman in my early thirties - men don't pay for anything anymore.

I'm more than happy to pay my half, sadly, most men of my generation aren't. I'll try not to get into a rant about it though!

As for your comments on feminism earlier - bless, you gave me a chuckle anyway.

Paul_Herring

blued wrote: »

When I tip, I tip for service, not the chef or the person working behind the bar etc. Chefs get paid a lot more than waiting staff and it annoys me to think that my tip could go to anyone other than the person who provided good service at my table.

... by that, then, the meal could have tasted foul, and be cold, and you'd still tip the waiting staff?

Didn't think so.

gjohnson

PoorPennilessMe wrote: »

Wow! Bitter much? I think your comments are a bit harsh... Who needs to lighten up?

Is it the guy who generously rounds his tip up to the nearest pound?

Come on, we all know the type. They are the sort of people who traipse through life as miserable as sin, and leave millions to a cats home in their will. Their lives are entirely consumed with how little they can get away with spending. They are the reason that pound stores exist. Nothing in them is worth £1, but they appeal to people who think they are getting a bargain because they can buy 20 bags of crisps for £1.