MSE Parents Club Part 11

kindofagilr

I haven't managed to read back yet, so stressed at the minute lol

I think I have the blues, well I know I have something wrong with me, I can't stop crying (In fact I am crying now) I just keep bursting into tears.

Elliot is not taking to the breast at all, he just won't latch, I am getting tired of having to express all the time, and it feel so dejecting when he doesnt take to the breast. I felt a little bit better this afternoon cos the great grandma's came to visit to see Elliot, and my main worry about not being able to BF is because MIL did BF and she is very vocal about how its the best and all that jazz (which I know it is)

But her mam said to her today "well Jean if he isnt taking he isnt taking there is nothing she can do about it and you were forumla fed as was your brother and there is nothing wrong with you" so I feel a bit better knowing that the great grandma's arent going to keep on at me about BF

OH is being a total legend, he takes most the nappy changes while I feed Elliot (via bottle, be it expressed or formula) he has been tidying, making the tea etc etc so much so that I cant stop freaking out about how on earth I am meant to cope when he goes back to work?

I just feel like a failure and I know I shouldnt I dont think it helped that I was apart from Elliot for 4 days, I think if we had got the skin to skin I wanted he would have BF straight away.

I just feel so low, Ive wanted children all my life and now I have Elliot I feel like I cant handle him or I dont know what to do? will this end???

I need to ask a question to mam's who are formula feeding, at the minute we were just feeding him Cow and Gate ready made cartons, we were filling a bottle up with the carton and then feeding him it, and what was left would go in the fridge and then when he wants another feed we would just take it out of the fridge and give him it (not heated up or anything) is this ok to do? just one of the great grandmas said that in her day you werent allowed to give babies cold milk?

Also we have just bought a tub of the cow and gate powder, and it says on there that you have to boil the kettle half an hour before you feed baby? how are you supposed to do that in the middle of the night? or even during the day? I mean if your baby is hungry he is hungry now not in half an hour?

Does that mean we can't make up bottles and keep them in the fridge?

The thought of this is stressing me out even more (and making me even more uspet that I cant BF)

Also on the side it says how much you should make based on age/weight well for birth (7.5 lbs) its got 3 scoops with 3 oz water, but for his weight 11.0 it says the baby is two months old and needs 6 ozs, there is no way he is eating that much.

He is probs having 90mls which is 3 oz, so would you make up that size?

Help please

tiamai_d

3onitsway wrote: »

How cool! How did she get into that?

He sounds very similar to J when you mention him, with LD's and Autism. I remember the shredded nappies well. At least her HV was clued up - mine said to me when J was two when I went to ask about something, 'I don't do special needs really!'. Cheers for that!

Thanks 3 Christopher is at the casting off the soiled nappy stage, as well as smearing the contents all over the bathroom etc etc etc.

We get 3 packs of pull ups a month which usually lasts us.

And toilet training is an issue. His consultant was pushing me to try again, but its hard work with him. Although, now we are back to just wearing pull ups he is starting to go to the loo on his own, so I think I will just leave him to do it that way.

House is clean, these folk are late, see if they don't turn up I will be mightily upset at cleaning... :cool::rotfl:

BeenieCat

Wahey just found a £10 off code for the Wilko cotbed :T Ordering now

jillie1974

kindofagilr wrote: »

I haven't managed to read back yet, so stressed at the minute lol

I think I have the blues, well I know I have something wrong with me, I can't stop crying (In fact I am crying now) I just keep bursting into tears.

Elliot is not taking to the breast at all, he just won't latch, I am getting tired of having to express all the time, and it feel so dejecting when he doesnt take to the breast. I felt a little bit better this afternoon cos the great grandma's came to visit to see Elliot, and my main worry about not being able to BF is because MIL did BF and she is very vocal about how its the best and all that jazz (which I know it is)

But her mam said to her today "well Jean if he isnt taking he isnt taking there is nothing she can do about it and you were forumla fed as was your brother and there is nothing wrong with you" so I feel a bit better knowing that the great grandma's arent going to keep on at me about BF

OH is being a total legend, he takes most the nappy changes while I feed Elliot (via bottle, be it expressed or formula) he has been tidying, making the tea etc etc so much so that I cant stop freaking out about how on earth I am meant to cope when he goes back to work?

I just feel like a failure and I know I shouldnt I dont think it helped that I was apart from Elliot for 4 days, I think if we had got the skin to skin I wanted he would have BF straight away.

I just feel so low, Ive wanted children all my life and now I have Elliot I feel like I cant handle him or I dont know what to do? will this end???

I need to ask a question to mam's who are formula feeding, at the minute we were just feeding him Cow and Gate ready made cartons, we were filling a bottle up with the carton and then feeding him it, and what was left would go in the fridge and then when he wants another feed we would just take it out of the fridge and give him it (not heated up or anything) is this ok to do? just one of the great grandmas said that in her day you werent allowed to give babies cold milk?

Also we have just bought a tub of the cow and gate powder, and it says on there that you have to boil the kettle half an hour before you feed baby? how are you supposed to do that in the middle of the night? or even during the day? I mean if your baby is hungry he is hungry now not in half an hour?

Does that mean we can't make up bottles and keep them in the fridge?

The thought of this is stressing me out even more (and making me even more uspet that I cant BF)

Also on the side it says how much you should make based on age/weight well for birth (7.5 lbs) its got 3 scoops with 3 oz water, but for his weight 11.0 it says the baby is two months old and needs 6 ozs, there is no way he is eating that much.

He is probs having 90mls which is 3 oz, so would you make up that size?

Help please

(((hugs)))
right formula-
boil the kettle, fill bout 2 or 3 bottles and stick them in a basin of cold water to cool down then straight to the fridge. either add the formula as and when you need the bottle (this is what i do) or add the formula first (Glam does this). Kian and Jack are both great babies and not suffered in anyway from not following 'guidelines'
Kian had 3oz for a while just ignorethe guidelines as this is all they are, if Elliot drains them and looks for more go up to 4 oz

hope you are ok
(((hugs))) again

and yay for great-grandmas common sense!!
and dont feel guilty for E not latching, Kian never did and the mw said its best that they get feed from a bottle than to keep struggling to b/feed.

csh_2

kindofagilr wrote: »

I need to ask a question to mam's who are formula feeding, at the minute we were just feeding him Cow and Gate ready made cartons, we were filling a bottle up with the carton and then feeding him it, and what was left would go in the fridge and then when he wants another feed we would just take it out of the fridge and give him it (not heated up or anything) is this ok to do? just one of the great grandmas said that in her day you werent allowed to give babies cold milk?

Also we have just bought a tub of the cow and gate powder, and it says on there that you have to boil the kettle half an hour before you feed baby? how are you supposed to do that in the middle of the night? or even during the day? I mean if your baby is hungry he is hungry now not in half an hour?

Does that mean we can't make up bottles and keep them in the fridge?

The thought of this is stressing me out even more (and making me even more uspet that I cant BF)

Also on the side it says how much you should make based on age/weight well for birth (7.5 lbs) its got 3 scoops with 3 oz water, but for his weight 11.0 it says the baby is two months old and needs 6 ozs, there is no way he is eating that much.

He is probs having 90mls which is 3 oz, so would you make up that size?

Help please

Ok, first off, I heat the milk, I wouldn't give a NB cold milk as the warm milk in the tummy is nicer for them and makes them sleepy, but its down to personal choice. A lot of older babies prefer colder milk.

The guidelines say make every bottle fresh. I made 6 at once with the half hour cooled kettle water, add the scoops, then chill in a sink of cold water for 20 mins then into the shelf (not door) of the fridge. Heat as needed.

I would make up 3oz bottles. If he is taking every drop, up it to 4 so you know he is not still hungry after. I always make bottles with 1 extra oz than needed so that I know hes HAD enough and finished, rather than finished and still needed more.

FWIW- K had 2x6oz bottles and 3x5ozs bottles a day nothing like the 'tin' says!
E will take as much as he needs and will let you know when he needs more x

Everything else is just normal overwhelming feelings of being a new mam. You will be fine. Don't worry about everything at once, sort stuff out bit by bit and try not to look at the big picture til later lol

tarajayne

3onitsway wrote: »

Hehe, This was the first post I saw this morning, and thought i'd done something wrong and was being b!tched about in my absence.

Sorry, should have thought, had such bad customer service from them!

Krystaltips wrote: »

What do folks give their babies for lunch? Caitlyn's not too keen on buttys... Or omlette... There endeth my imagination for todays lunch...

Spaghetti or scrambled eggs on toast, marmite sandwich, pasta in sauce or just fruit and yogurt, basically, anything. X

Krystaltips wrote: »

Meh... I've used semi skimmed on Caitlyn's breakfast since I started giving her breakfast... I don't think 10ml of half fat milk is going to affect her diet much...

Me too.

BeenieCat

Kindof, it's overwhelming but you will feel stronger soon i am sure. You've had a hard time of it in his first few days and now that you're home and left to your devices it can be a shock to the system (at the best of times, let alone after the transfer to sunderland etc).

When OH goes back to work you'll manage because it will get easier and because you will be great. I managed without anyone here to help me - it just meant no housework got done but who cares about that?

I would just make up a 4oz bottle to start with, and see how much he takes, If he drinks it all then offer another couple of oz in a new bottle maybe? It's been a long time since i FF so i dunno about preparing.

SusanC_2

kindofagilr wrote: »

I haven't managed to read back yet, so stressed at the minute lol

I think I have the blues, well I know I have something wrong with me, I can't stop crying (In fact I am crying now) I just keep bursting into tears.

:grouphug:

kindofagilr wrote: »

OH is being a total legend, he takes most the nappy changes while I feed Elliot (via bottle, be it expressed or formula) he has been tidying, making the tea etc etc so much so that I cant stop freaking out about how on earth I am meant to cope when he goes back to work?

Do you have a slow cooker? They are good because you can prepare the food as and when then stick it in so it is ready at tea time and then it doesn't matter if you are really busy with the baby just before meal time. Also, do you have a freezer and a microwave? If so, then when you do cook, you can do extra and freeze it so that it's just a case of microwaving it on the other days. Will OH still be able to help out when he is back at work? The first few months, mine used to bath Alice when he got home while I did a few jobs and then while fed her and put her to bed, he would cook the dinner. Don't worry too much about tidying and other housework at this stage - just focus on food and clothes as they are the essentials.

kindofagilr wrote: »

I just feel like a failure and I know I shouldnt I dont think it helped that I was apart from Elliot for 4 days, I think if we had got the skin to skin I wanted he would have BF straight away.

I just feel so low, Ive wanted children all my life and now I have Elliot I feel like I cant handle him or I dont know what to do? will this end???

:grouphug: It must have been very hard having to be separated like that. You are not a failure and even if you don't end up breastfeeding, you have given him some breastmilk and all the breastmilk a baby has is beneficial even if it is just one feed. Whether you are giving him formula or breastmilk, you are giving him everything he needs and you have not failed. (And things will get better.)

Natalie85

I need to ask a question to mam's who are formula feeding, at the minute we were just feeding him Cow and Gate ready made cartons, we were filling a bottle up with the carton and then feeding him it, and what was left would go in the fridge and then when he wants another feed we would just take it out of the fridge and give him it (not heated up or anything) is this ok to do? just one of the great grandmas said that in her day you werent allowed to give babies cold milk?

Also we have just bought a tub of the cow and gate powder, and it says on there that you have to boil the kettle half an hour before you feed baby? how are you supposed to do that in the middle of the night? or even during the day? I mean if your baby is hungry he is hungry now not in half an hour?

Does that mean we can't make up bottles and keep them in the fridge?

The thought of this is stressing me out even more (and making me even more uspet that I cant BF)

Also on the side it says how much you should make based on age/weight well for birth (7.5 lbs) its got 3 scoops with 3 oz water, but for his weight 11.0 it says the baby is two months old and needs 6 ozs, there is no way he is eating that much.

He is probs having 90mls which is 3 oz, so would you make up that size?

Help please [/QUOTE]


Hi, we formula fed from the start and after using the cartons, we also chose not to warm milk up, much easier in the middle of the night. we never had any problems, just make sure its not too cold. we didnt put ours in the fridge.

I sterilised bottles filled them with boiling water and then left them until needed, then i would put the amount of formula in as and when i needed the bottle. i bought a little pot from asda to measure out the formula in sections, which ment i could take a couple of bottles to bed and the formula measured out. which meant i didnt have to get up :T

i ignored the measurements on the side, i think i made up about 3 or 4 oz for the first few days to establish how much she was actually taking, the side is for 'the average baby' who probably doesnt exist hehe.

dont worry everybody gets a bit upset and stressed. i was bottle feeding from day 1 but if she wasnt hungry or wouldnt have the 'recommended' amount i would panic.

as long as he seems happy enough your doing a good job

Buttonmoons

I tried marmite t'other day. It's not nice :eek:

Keira is a proper finicky eater, her menu is like this in a day (and she hates chewing too unless its chewits)

B - Cereal or toast or fruit or yoghurt. Can have more if she wants, but this is a child that can't even eat 1 whole weetabix.
L - This is where I struggle. Toast or Fruit or Scrambled eggs or fish or pasta.

D - Fish/potatoes/peas, Tomato pasta, Curry, Chicken fried rice etc

Have been giving her what we have lately, she just picks but hey ho. Mac N Cheese tonight with garlic bread and salad. I reckon she will try one piece of the mac n cheese before hollering about being "full" but can she have ice cream now?