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Revenge of the tailgated!

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  • Lil306
    Lil306 Posts: 1,692 Forumite
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    edited 2 March 2010 at 5:21PM
    I foolishly thought that front brakes were the most powerful as under most circumstances the 'weight' of the vehicle is transferred to the front and leads to a 'light' rear.
    Your foolish assumption would be correct, the front brakes are the most powerful when the vehicle weight is transferred. They are not however if someone ever carried out the suggestion made by that poster of yanking the handbrake instead of stamping on the brakes, you'd then have the rears taking up all the braking force of the car. Depending on the split it could be anywhere from 40-100% of the brakes.
    I was referring to those who sit in an outside lane when the inside is free, just so they can play at being a policeman and hold up those who want to break the speed limit.
    They're just nobbas, they get on everyones nerves.
    Cos you are 1 lucky tw2t
    Na, it's all the smog and pollution in the North East. Everyone up here is enhanced with radioactive powers :D
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  • bitemebankers
    bitemebankers Posts: 1,688 Forumite
    Lil306 wrote: »
    Your foolish assumption would be correct, the front brakes are the most powerful when the vehicle weight is transferred. They are not however if someone ever carried out the suggestion made by that poster of yanking the handbrake instead of stamping on the brakes, you'd then have the rears taking up all the braking force of the car. Depending on the split it could be anywhere from 40-100% of the brakes.

    I'm not trying to be funny or anything, but it seems you don't actually understand how brakes work.

    A handbrake will, at best, give you about 10-20% of the braking force of the footbrake before the rear wheels simply lock up. It's not a particularly effective way of slowing down a car, as anyone who has experienced brake failure will tell you. Better than nothing in an emergency (Americans refer to the handbrake as the "emergency brake", btw), but the idea that the car will stop quickly or spin out of control is simply wrong.
    "There may be a legal obligation to obey, but there will be no moral obligation to obey. When it comes to history, it will be the people who broke the law for freedom that will be remembered and honoured." --Rt. Hon. Tony Benn
  • verybigchris
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    Lil306 wrote: »
    Na, it's all the smog and pollution in the North East. Everyone up here is enhanced with radioactive powers :D

    That's so true! I once travelled back from a Boro game down the A19 in the thickest fog imaginable, and I swear drivers must have been using some form of bat-like radar!
  • Lil306
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    edited 2 March 2010 at 5:43PM
    A handbrake will, at best, give you about 10-20% of the braking force of the footbrake before the rear wheels simply lock up. It's not a particularly effective way of slowing down a car, as anyone who has experienced brake failure will tell you. Better than nothing in an emergency (Americans refer to the handbrake as the "emergency brake", btw), but the idea that the car will stop quickly or spin out of control is simply wrong.
    Ofcourse I don't, cars aren't my speciality computers are.

    I know cars have an 80/20 or varying brake bias split, not sure if this is mainly when the car is stationary and it alters depending on where the load is being placed. If you yanked a handbrake however besides being stupid you run the chance of ruining your disks and fusing the pads. Also it wouldn't be smart anyway, if you yank a handbrake you get no warning so there's more chance of a tailgater going into you

    If you think a car won't spin out of control with handbrake I suggest you go drive a road when it freezes with black ice at 30-40mph then pull harsh on the handbrake and try to turn. Your car will fish tail like hell then you'll either crash or recover it depending on how good a driver you are
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  • Dr.Shoe_2
    Dr.Shoe_2 Posts: 1,028 Forumite
    All I do is ignore them. OK, I might slow down as a rear end shunt at 30mph is less dangerous than one at 50. I stick to the speed limit at the most and if they flash their lights I just keep pace with the traffic on my left for as long as I can without making it look deliberate.

    If someone comes up behind me quickly but slows down and keeps their distance then I get out of the way as soon as I can.
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  • Lil306
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    I don't passively try to annoy tailgaters, like I say. I'm over that now in my elder years, luckily it's easier for me as where I live it's not as busy. I can imagine like places where you live would be worse being the capital traffic must be a nightmare :)
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  • bitemebankers
    bitemebankers Posts: 1,688 Forumite
    Lil306 wrote: »
    cars aren't my speciality.

    This is abundantly clear...
    "There may be a legal obligation to obey, but there will be no moral obligation to obey. When it comes to history, it will be the people who broke the law for freedom that will be remembered and honoured." --Rt. Hon. Tony Benn
  • Lil306
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    edited 2 March 2010 at 6:00PM
    This is abundantly clear...

    Coming from someone who suggested pulling on a handbrake and increasing the chance of a crash happening from the rear end without warning.

    Make sure when you go drive on some black ice and crash after pulling the handbrake you record it so I can say to your relatives "told you so" when you die.

    I'm not going to waste my time arguing further anyway, I've said my piece in this topic and I'm off to browse more topics. Whine as much as you want if you don't like it :D
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  • bitemebankers
    bitemebankers Posts: 1,688 Forumite
    Lil306 wrote: »
    Coming from someone who suggested pulling on a handbrake and increasing the chance of a crash...

    In an *obviously* tongue-in-cheek post. Everyone else seems to have realised it was just a bit of joke...
    "There may be a legal obligation to obey, but there will be no moral obligation to obey. When it comes to history, it will be the people who broke the law for freedom that will be remembered and honoured." --Rt. Hon. Tony Benn
  • cyclonebri1
    cyclonebri1 Posts: 12,827 Forumite
    In an *obviously* tongue-in-cheek post. Everyone else seems to have realised it was just a bit of joke...


    :T:T:T
    Don't know how "lil" did get older to be honest;)
    I like the thanks button, but ,please, an I agree button.

    Will the grammar and spelling police respect I do make grammatical errors, and have carp spelling, no need to remind me.;)

    Always expect the unexpected:eek:and then you won't be dissapointed
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