Revenge of the tailgated!

Lil306

verybigchris wrote: »

Rubbish. A car driving at 30mph will cover 2 metres in less than one sixth of a second.

OK, and you think the brain of an "alert" driver can't react faster than that ?

Have you never heard of a cognitive / stimulus response?

This basically allows a person to react ridiculously fast in an emergency situation. An "alert" driver, seeing someone stamp on the brakes would have an congnitive reaction thus allowing them to apply breaks automatically without even realising in a split second.

How many times have you suddenly had to do an emergency stop (excluding breaking dist).

Exactly how quick did your body reaction to the intial "shock"?
Your body stimulus would have reacted to it instantly (probably a thousandth of a second) and maybe another 1/10th of a second to stamp on the brakes.

Rolandtheroadie

Brain works, foot moves, car slows. Shame it's not only the brain that needs to work.

verybigchris

Lil306 wrote: »

OK, and you think the brain of an "alert" driver can't react faster than that ?

Yes. Olympic sprinters train 7 days a week on reaction times, and a typical top-class sprinter has a reaction time of 0.12s to 0.15s, which is about the same time as this hypothetical driver has.

Unless where you drive has a high proportional of tailgating world-class athletes, I'd suggest they drop back a bit.

cyclonebri1

Lil306 wrote: »

OK, and you think the brain of an "alert" driver can't react faster than that ?

Have you never heard of a cognitive / stimulus response?

This basically allows a person to react ridiculously fast in an emergency situation. An "alert" driver, seeing someone stamp on the brakes would have an congnitive reaction thus allowing them to apply breaks automatically without even realising in a split second.

How many times have you suddenly had to do an emergency stop (excluding breaking dist).

Exactly how quick did your body reaction to the intial "shock"?
Your body stimulus would have reacted to it instantly (probably a thousandth of a second) and maybe another 1/10th of a second to stamp on the brakes.

I'm sorry lil but that is rubbish, it's not only mental reaction time but also physical reacton time.

Put it this way, in 1/6 of a second can you go from driving along without a care in the world to braking hard enough to save someones life, and that includes lifting of the throttle, moving your foot to the opposite pedal and pressing dam hard?.

There is only one answer, NO, you can't. :A

Lil306

cyclonebri1 wrote: »

Put it this way, in 1/6 of a second can you go from driving along without a care in the world to braking hard enough to save someones life, and that includes lifting of the throttle, moving your foot to the opposite pedal and pressing dam hard?.

Can the body react faster than 1/6th of a second to make you press the brake to a cognitive response
Yes

Can you save someones life after reacting that quickly
No, because you're too bloody close to start with. However a cognitive response would mean you are less likely to collide with the vehicle due to the reaction time in pressing the brakes.

DirectDebacle

As long as you are driving correctly and considerately (e.g. you haven't entered a 40mph limit from a 30mph and are unnecessarily still doing 28mph) then by having observed you are being tailgated you have already taken the appropriate action. You can alter your driving plans accordingly and for example use acceleration control to slow down earlier for hazards instead of firm braking.

Slamming on brakes, throwing missiles or stopping so you can reverse back into the tailgater or any other madcap manoeuvre, I would say tends to exacerbate the situation, rather than alleviate it.

Lil306

DirectDebacle wrote: »

As long as you are driving correctly and considerately (e.g. you haven't entered a 40mph limit from a 30mph and are unnecessarily still doing 28mph) then by having observed you are being tailgated you have already taken the appropriate action. You can alter your driving plans accordingly and for example use acceleration control to slow down earlier for hazards instead of firm braking.

Which is what I do

DirectDebacle wrote: »

Slamming on brakes, throwing missiles or stopping so you can reverse back into the tailgater or any other madcap manoevure, I would say tends to exacerbate the situation, rather than alleviate it.

Which is what I don't do

bitemebankers

Heh...if you're feeling really evil, a short, sharp tug of the handbrake usually does the trick

Not that I'm suggesting anyone tries this....

cyclonebri1

Lil306 wrote: »

Can the body react faster than 1/6th of a second to make you press the brake to a cognitive response
Yes

Can you save someones life after reacting that quickly
No, because you're too bloody close to start with. However a cognitive response would mean you are less likely to collide with the vehicle due to the reaction time in pressing the brakes.

NO, because by the time the body realises the issue it is toooo late

DirectDebacle

Lil306 wrote: »

I'm a hater too


If it's some deliberate chump who is tailgaiting for no other reason except they like fast driving and don't care about anyone else and try to bully them into speeding up then I'll simply do a hard brake light check. If they continue to do it I will slow down to 0 and either get out and hit them. Or put my car in reverse and drive off with their radiator attached to my tow bar.

My apologies. I must have mis-understood this.