Parking Eye - Nasty tricks

shakyccfc

Also had a letter this week from parking eye, was going to appeal but will just ignore thanks to this thread.

Just to put me at total ease can someone confirm they have had all the letters from parking eye and that they eventually just stopped?

Cheers

bromsgrovebarry

i have got through all their silly letter chain letters twice and guess what? Nothing happened. Relax and laugh at the silly scam mail when it arrives.

jaxncj

trisontana wrote: »

You are correct. The only amount they can claim for is the actual material loss suffered by the landowner - that's basic contract law. Anything above that would be considered as a penalty. That is against the law. This is because in this country one citizen (the parking company) cannot punish another citizen ( the motorist).

forgot to say, not once does it say FINE or PENALTY on the letter just PARKING CHARGE NOTICE TO OWNER,does this make a difference as they dont use those words, i'm still fretting. most of the people are getting letters cuz they stayed beyond the time limit, i didnt buy a ticket , is this the same thing, cheers

esmerobbo

jaxncj wrote: »

forgot to say, not once does it say FINE or PENALTY on the letter just PARKING CHARGE NOTICE TO OWNER,does this make a difference as they dont use those words, i'm still fretting. most of the people are getting letters cuz they stayed beyond the time limit, i didnt buy a ticket , is this the same thing, cheers

Dont matter what they call it, its a speculative invoice that you dont need to pay.

Parking Spy reckon a great percentage pay up without question, one reason they wont go to court because [STRIKE]if[/STRIKE] when they lose others would know they don't need to pay! Better to except the ones that pay then to advertise that they don't need paying.

robredz

jaxncj wrote: »

forgot to say, not once does it say FINE or PENALTY on the letter just PARKING CHARGE NOTICE TO OWNER,does this make a difference as they dont use those words, i'm still fretting. most of the people are getting letters cuz they stayed beyond the time limit, i didnt buy a ticket , is this the same thing, cheers

It doesn't say FINE or PENALTY because they would get their backsides kicked by Trading Standards, or a County Court Judge if they went there to claim their £90 or so was proportionate to a loss of £0 or pennies if they did, as, it is an invoice, an Invitation To Treat, under the law, and as it is an INVITATION to pay, you can decline it by ignoring. Obviously they will make further OFFERS by threatOgram, but these are no more enforceble that the first.

trisontana

jaxncj wrote: »

forgot to say, not once does it say FINE or PENALTY on the letter just PARKING CHARGE NOTICE TO OWNER,does this make a difference as they dont use those words, i'm still fretting. most of the people are getting letters cuz they stayed beyond the time limit, i didnt buy a ticket , is this the same thing, cheers

This is an old thread, with old advice


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jaxncj

thank you to all for there advice, still a little nervy but will stand my ground and ignore Parking Eye for their greedy demands, wonder how long it will take before they give up lol once again BIG THANKS xx

Oopsadaisy

jaxncj wrote: »

wonder how long it will take before they give up

Couple of years or so...then it'll be re-activated a few yrs after that by some debt chaser. So probs anywhere from 3 months to 4/5 yrs in total [just a guess]

JontomXire

I REALLY should have done a Google search earlier on this.

To be honest I only Googled "Parking Eye" after I noticed that they were going to charge me 5% to use a credit or debit card to pay the reduced charge. What a rip off! Charging 1% or 2% is quite normal for credit card payments as that is what the credit card company charge the vendor, but 5%? Even on debit cards?

I made the huge mistake of emailing them. Well the huge mistake was really assuming that they might actually be normal reasonable human beings rather than a bunch of fraudsters.

So here is the email:

I have received a parking charge notice number XXXXXXXXXX.

I parked in the car park under the impression that parking was free for customers of Morrisons. Unfortunately I didn't actually do the shopping myself. I was staying at Butlins with my wife, kids, and a group of friends, and it was the friends who actually did the shopping for the group of us all. I was merely the driver, being the only person in the group with a car.

As such I have neither a store receipt nor a bank statement.

The PCN states that I have 13 days during which I can pay the reduced amount. This is not true. The reduced payment period ends on 15th September, but since I only received the letter on the 6th September, this only gives me 9 days.

As a result I am under unfair pressure to simply accept the PCN and pay the reduced amount without having sufficient time to properly explore the possibility of appealing, for which I would need to contact my friends to find out who actually paid for the shopping (which cost was later divided between us all) and obtain a bank statement from them.

Lastly the PCN states that by entering the car park I agreed to be bound by the terms and conditions. What terms and conditions? The letter states that they were clearly displayed at the entrance but I didn't see any, possibly because I was concentrating more on driving and not running the car into various walls, railings, and other people's cars. Next time I enter a pay and display car park, perhaps I should stop the car just before the entrance, get out, and examine all notice boards carefully to see if by entering I am unwittingly agreeing to a legal contract I would otherwise be unaware of.

Please can you advise me of my options. If I can produce a bank statement showing that I was parking for the purpose of shopping at Morrisons, will I be able to successfully appeal against this PCN?

So basically I admit to being the driver. Oops. Given that I have done so, can I still ignore the letters or should I pay up now?

From what I have read, the amount being charged is not valid and is illegal as penalty notices are illegal. Basically I have admitted to owing them what I should have paid for the parking ticket, which will be a couple of quid.

However I did not see anything entitled "terms and conditions" nor anything that constituted a contract anywhere in the car park, so how can I have agreed to be bound by terms and conditions I didn't even see? It brings to mind the old Microsoft EULA where the terms and conditions were enclosed in a plastic bag sealed with a sticker that read "By opening this bag you agree to be bound by the terms and conditions contained herein".

If there were any terms and conditions on any of the boards, it was not possible to safely read them while driving into the carpark - I would have had to park and walk to the signage to read them - thus "agreeing" to the terms and conditions before I had read them.

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So, can someone pelase advise me:

1) Do PE have any grounds for claiming any money from me at all?
2) If so, can they still claim the penalty amount or are they only entitled to a much smaller amount?
3) What should I do now?


Thanks for any help and advice.

trisontana

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